Better resume: Floyd Mayweather Jr or Jack Dempsey?

[HOUDINI563]

Tell everyone again Schmeling fought mostly opponents from Germany. And you now try to state you did not challenge the champions end? Mind numbing.

[billeau2]

Tell everyone again Schmeling fought mostly opponents from Germany. And you now try to state you did not challenge the champions end? Mind numbing.

Why cannot you grasp the point being made? The world at that time, the status of sports as an institution was not international in nature. It doesn't even matter if Europeans fought Americans, certainly not that Schmelling fought Germans. The whole structure of sports... baseball today is a prime example, Japanese and Spanish players are a regular feature and the way the sport is followed... And sports in general, Football, Soccer, MMA, Boxing. the advent of Las Vegas, after the Cuban Revolution, as an international hub for athletes and entertainers.

In the 1920's the best boxing trainers were in New York City, with certain other cities having exceptional talent and resources... Pittsburgh, San Francisco, Detroit, etc. You certainly had exceptions... Great Northern European fighters, Canadians, etc.

Houdini, just look at the population of the world, there is no way that boxing could have the consistent numbers to be international.

Its not a slight on talent by any means...Certainly not to me. I believe there was much more skills being passed down, a higher standard for making it to the top... But that is a separate issue.

[QueensburyRules]

- -Not gonna bother checking boxrec for U slovenlys, but the 20s-30s had much greater populations of heavies than today.

Moan about the talent pool if U must have U pie in the sky, but fax is fax!

[Marchegiano]

Tell everyone again Schmeling fought mostly opponents from Germany. And you now try to state you did not challenge the champions end? Mind numbing.

did you count them?

22 against Germans

16 US

no other nationality even hits 10.

More Germans than any other nationality

Fury would really have to pick up his home team scene to match Max in domestics.


I don't understand what's difficult about it. No one is challenging the champion status. I'm challenging the global status of boxing during their eras.

[Marchegiano]

- -Not gonna bother checking boxrec for U slovenlys, but the 20s-30s had much greater populations of heavies than today.

Moan about the talent pool if U must have U pie in the sky, but fax is fax!

Show me. I don't know what you mean by use boxrec. Go through every day of the 20/30s and compare it to the last two decades worth of every match?

How do i get boxrec to show me all the HWs from the 20s? That'd be, you know, super useful regardless of this.

What I do know how to do is pull a date and look at the fights on that date.

So, let's do that.

The day Dempsey beat Willard there were 4 HW fights including Dempsey-Willard

The day Wlad beat Byrd there were 9 including Wlad-Byrd


The day Vitali won his title there were 18 HW fights including Vitali's

The day Primo won his title there were 8 HW fights including Primo's



hmm....don't look good.

[BOJACK]

Floyd is tbe, he would **** up dempsey with one check lefthook yea boiii

[ShoulderRoll]

Floyd, obviously.

It doesn't even seem close really.

Yet here we are with people arguing against it.

[The plunger man]

I think Floyd has a better resume by some margin

[QueensburyRules]

Show me. I don't know what you mean by use boxrec. Go through every day of the 20/30s and compare it to the last two decades worth of every match?

How do i get boxrec to show me all the HWs from the 20s? That'd be, you know, super useful regardless of this.

What I do know how to do is pull a date and look at the fights on that date.

So, let's do that.

The day Dempsey beat Willard there were 4 HW fights including Dempsey-Willard

The day Wlad beat Byrd there were 9 including Wlad-Byrd


The day Vitali won his title there were 18 HW fights including Vitali's

The day Primo won his title there were 8 HW fights including Primo's



hmm....don't look good.

- -Apples to oranges...Duh!

[Marchegiano]

- -Apples to oranges...Duh!

There was a request there. Let me make it more simple for you:

I will do that work, tell me what it is you were referring to when you said "Not gonna bother checking boxrec for U slovenlys"

Kay, I will check boxrec for the 20s/30s compared to the 2000s 2010s