Sugar Ray Robinson vs. Roberto Duran For The Lightweight Title

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  • TonyGe
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    #21
    Originally posted by HOUDINI563
    I’m not familiar enough with the details of boxing rules at that time to determine what was done here was right or wrong. It was a flagrant low blow. Are we saying just because both fighters threw punches after the bell anything goes? So if Durán kicked Ken in the balls instead of punching him he still wins?

    The other curious thing is how quickly after Ken is back in his corner the ref stops the fight? Ken was writhing in pain but still wanted to continue.

    Buchanan’s career was too early for me to follow since I started watching the sport in 1971. He really impressed me in this fight. Duran was a tiger but Ken kept moving and counterpunching all the while taking blows that stopped so many. Buchanan was one tough fighter.
    No doubt that Buchanan was a very good fighter and underrated. However punching your opponent after the bell is also a flagrent foul. So who is going to get penalized both guys and rule it a no contest. The referee failed to do his job during the fight. It matters but Buchanan would have lost anyway.

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    • Willie Pep 229
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      #22
      Originally posted by HOUDINI563
      Here is a nice article and you can find a still photo of the low low. Looks like it landed on the very upper thigh/ front of the hip area so very low but not in the balls.

      https://www.boxingoverbroadway.com/duran-v-buchanan/
      Oh! I think that's low.

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        #23
        Unless it’s a camera angle effect that punch is no where near his balls.

        Both were punching after the bell. Only one landed a flagrant low blow however.

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          #24
          Got to point out at the beginning of the round coming off the ropes Buchanan hit Duran low twice below the belt on his hip with right hooks.

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            #25
            There were lots of low blow by both fighters all through the fight. The final one was quite low however.

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              #26
              I just rewatched round 13 twice. Those two body blows at the start of the round by Buchanan were beltline blows. Nothing any ref would call a deliberate foul. That last blow by Duran was well south of the border...flagrant.

              When Ken fell his corner rushed to him and started to lift him off the canvas...then stopped. Ken then struggled to his feet and got to his corner by himself. I assume the ref warned his corner that he had to get to the corner unassisted?

              The ref then walks to a neutral corner, strolls back to Buchanan’s corner and within seconds waves off the fight. Still think this was beyond strange. Further strange that I see Ken complain in disbelief but not his corner.

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                #27
                What about poor Barkley, not complaining about them low blows that (juiced up) Duran inflected on him. Duran was connected with the New York monopoly, and they allowed him to get away with murder, as long as their making money with him.

                I could name you a dozen fighters from the 1930's and 40's that he would be walking on ***** street as a tanker. He would have to go in clean, no coke!

                I can name featherweights that would ruin him as Lwt.

                In all divisions he fought. What most of you don't know is what you don't see, unless, its TV. Duran had the green light to do whatever he wants to win a fight.

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                  #28
                  What does the "New York Monopoly" mean?

                  The Buchanan fight was in '72 and Barkley fight in '89 (which was actually in Atlantic City) that's a long time in existence, and a long reach for a 'monopoly' to be fixing fights.

                  Besides Duran in 119 fights, only fought eight times at the Garden (or any where in New York for that matter), between 1971 and 1994, even dropping UD to Paz there.

                  If Duran had an "in" with a New York monopoly he certainly didn't take much advantage of it.

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                  • TonyGe
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Willie Pep 229
                    Oh! I think that's low.

                    Originally posted by HOUDINI563
                    There were lots of low blow by both fighters all through the fight. The final one was quite low however.
                    Yeah extremely low.

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                      #30
                      Buck finally landed some shots and could not stop punching when the bell rang, so Duran, a far greater fighter than the muffin mitted Scotsman, KO'd him to the nuts. The far greater fighter should have given the muffin-mitted boxer a rematch, but he didn't. End of story.

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