head to head Billy Conn Ezzard Charles

[billeau2]

Yeah, Charles would KO Godzilla and King Kong. In the first round. At the same timen Probably without even throwing a punch.

Conn's performance against Louis was far, far greater than Robinson's against Maxim. And his wins over Yarosz and Aposotoli take a steaming hot sh.it over anything Ray did during his TWENTY years in the division.

I do rank Robinson higher, but not by much. And one of the few reasons why is owed to having a muuuuuuch longer career. If his career were also over at 25, it would almost be splitting hairs between them.

There it is folks, another Trombonism.

[billeau2]

Fred the dancing bellhop Apostoli

Famous achievements that s h i t over Robinson's twenty year career and make Conn exceptional over and above The Cincinnati Cobra:

Lost to Tony Zale Lost to Cerifino Garcia....there you have it folks...I guess I owe the blowhard an apology because clearly this sh its on anything Robinson did...ever!

And now the Great Bob Pastor who clearly was a better win than anyone on Louis' record!

Ummm aside from winning one out of two with Bivens, not much that I can see... but the Blowhard speaks the truth!

See when we actually look at what the blowhard says, it is exposed, and shows what utter BS we are dealing with. Why doesn't someone else put some work in on a Trombonism.

Charley Burley power puncher made one see stars!

[Rusty Tromboni]

There it is folks, another Trombonism.

Hahahaha!

So now Joey Maxim is better than Joe Louis!?!?!?


Maybe if Conn had fought "great" fighters like Sam McVea or Cleveland Williams, or that guy only you seem to know, Max Bauer, we could consider him in league with Charles?

[Rusty Tromboni]

Famous achievements that s h i t over Robinson's twenty year career and make Conn exceptional over and above The Cincinnati Cobra:

Lost to Tony Zale Lost to Cerifino Garcia....there you have it folks...I guess I owe the blowhard an apology because clearly this sh its on anything Robinson did...ever!

And now the Great Bob Pastor who clearly was a better win than anyone on Louis' record!

Ummm aside from winning one out of two with Bivens, not much that I can see... but the Blowhard speaks the truth!

See when we actually look at what the blowhard says, it is exposed, and shows what utter BS we are dealing with. Why doesn't someone else put some work in on a Trombonism.

Charley Burley power puncher made one see stars!

Ever think about taking your meds before posting?

[billeau2]

Hahahaha!

So now Joey Maxim is better than Joe Louis!?!?!?


Maybe if Conn had fought "great" fighters like Sam McVea or Cleveland Williams, or that guy only you seem to know, Max Bauer, we could consider him in league with Charles?

Ahh the popular strategy of hinging a fighter's ability on a single fight... Trombone seems to like Maxim for this purpose. Maxim who exposed the great Sugar Ray, who we now know, according to a popular tromboneism was ordinary....never mind the 200 or so other fights...

And Maxim who we now know single handedly determined the ability of Charles...

And Conn fought great fighters like pasteur? Have a look at Pasteur's record some time lol.

Im beggining to understand now: Joey Maxim was the greatest fighter ever, only second to Pasteur perhaps?

[billeau2]

Ever think about taking your meds before posting?

Your right I owe you yet another apology Trombone...surely if I took some of what went for meds back in my younger days, perhaps some MdmA, LSD, Shrooms (My favorite) I might understand your logic. It is correct just in a parallel world. DMT would make it perfect!

Trombone you are not the problem I acquit thee, the problem is consensual reality.

[billeau2]

Butt hurt much?


Want an easy fix to me picking on you? Stop making sh.it up.


Conn's clearly superior. No one could watch these two and draw any other conclusion.

While a UD win for Conn is most likely, Conn finishing Charles remains a high possibility.

No one but the majority of posters in an area of the forum who have extensive boxing knowledge compared to the general public...

Thats close Trombone! Real close!! And another Tromboneism! Every one is deluded here but Rusty. So listen all you schmucks, get it together ok?!

[Rockin']

Bill Miller used to praise Ezzard Charles. I couldn't argue with him, he was alive while Charles was fighting and with his vast experience in the game I tend to take his words/opinion very seriously.....Rockin'

[Tom Cruise]

Is it relevant that Charles was knocked down 29 times in his career?

Ezzard Charles (The Cincinnati Cobra) a total of 29 times in 11 fights

Billy Bengal ::: (1) ::: Music Hall Arena, Cincinnati ::: 10/02/1941 ::: Down Round 7 ::: W UD
Lloyd Marshall I ::: (8) ::: Arena, Cleveland ::: 31/03/1943 ::: Down Rounds 1 (2) & 3 & 5 & 7 (2) & 8 (2) ::: L TKO
Jimmy Bivens I::: (4) ::: Arena, Cleveland ::: 07/01/1943 ::: Down Rounds 3 & 4 & 5 & 8 ::: L UD
Fitize Fitzpatrick ::: (1) ::: Crosley Field, Cincinnati ::: 14/07/1947 ::: Down Round 2 ::: W KO
Jersey Joe Walcott III ::: (1) ::: Forbes Field, Pittsburgh ::: 18/07/1951 ::: Down Round 7 ::: L KO
Rocky, Marciano II ::: (3) ::: Yankee Stadium, The Bronx ::: 17/09/1954 ::: Down Rounds 2 & 8 (2) ::: L KO
John Holman I ::: (3) ::: Auditorium, Miami Beach ::: 27/04/1955 :: Down Rounds 1 & 9 (2) ::: L TKO
Paul Andrews ::: (1) ::: Chicago Stadium, Chicago ::: 13/07/1955 ::: Down Round 2 ::: W SD
Harry Matthews ::: (1) ::: Sicks' Stadium, Seattle ::: 31/08/1956 ::: Down Round 1 ::: L UD
Donnie Fleeman ::: (3) ::: Memorial Auditorium, Dallas ::: 27/10/1958 ::: Down Rounds 5 (2) & 6 ::: L KO
George Logan ::: (3) ::: Fairgrounds Arena, Boise ::: 30/07/1959 ::: Down Rounds 1 & 3 & 8 ::: L KO

Id say you can discount everything post Marciano I as being a shot fighter, and Lloyd Marshall 1 he was injured. So thats 22 Kds accounted for.

But, Id add one that I know of, he was KD'd by Marshall in their rematch as well.

[Tom Cruise]

Conn's clearly superior. No one could watch these two and draw any other conclusion.

How much footage have you actually seen of Conn?

I think Ive only seen Louis I/II, and pretty horrible footage of Melio Bettina, which is all I can get on YT, though I know YT doesnt have everything.

Is there more out there?