No boxer could have beat Mike Tyson on the 22nd of November, 1986

[hellfire508]

None of those guys where even close to beating Tyson. Tyson would take Ali out in 4 rounds or win a close UD.

Like Liston was going to? Oh no, that was 1 round...

Or like Tyson took Bonecrusher out in 4? Or Jose Ribalta (who?)?

Picking Tyson is FINE.. but by 4th round KO? THAT is an insult to Ali. Someone who was the most elusive heavyweight ever, had a top 5 heavyweight chin, and heart, and the best recuperative powers... plus everything else he had... aint getting taken out in 4 rounds by anything short of a tank.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

Like Liston was going to? Oh no, that was 1 round...

Or like Tyson took Bonecrusher out in 4? Or Jose Ribalta (who?)?

Picking Tyson is FINE.. but by 4th round KO? THAT is an insult to Ali. Someone who was the most elusive heavyweight ever, had a top 5 heavyweight chin, and heart, and the best recuperative powers... plus everything else he had... aint getting taken out in 4 rounds by anything short of a tank.

I have to agree Tyson wouldn't take Ali out in 4
I'm not saying Ali would win but what I am saying is that Ali's very worst (Holmes,Berbick and even Spinks) all the guys who beat him took over 10 rounds....Even if Tyson was just hitting while Ali was defending and moderately attacking it would take him more then 4 rounds....

[Mike Tyson77]

Like Liston was going to? Oh no, that was 1 round...

Or like Tyson took Bonecrusher out in 4? Or Jose Ribalta (who?)?

Picking Tyson is FINE.. but by 4th round KO? THAT is an insult to Ali. Someone who was the most elusive heavyweight ever, had a top 5 heavyweight chin, and heart, and the best recuperative powers... plus everything else he had... aint getting taken out in 4 rounds by anything short of a tank.

Tyson either lands a big shot or wins a close UD.

[Southpaw Stinger]

Tyson either lands a big shot or wins a close UD.

You think Tyson would get a decision over Ali? LMAO

Or you think he would land a big shot and finnish him when harder punchers like Shavers, Foreman, Liston and Lyle couldn't? lol

[hellfire508]

You think Tyson would get a decision over Ali? LMAO

Or you think he would land a big shot and finnish him when harder punchers like Shavers, Foreman, Liston and Lyle couldn't? lol

In fairness, Tyson fought differently to those guys. Nonetheless, Ali took Shavers' best shots, Foreman's, Frazier's, and Lyle's... and he beat them all. This was a past prime Ali. Ali didn't take Liston's best shots, cos he never got caught. He was far too quick for Sonny. So when you can take tens of bombs from the hardest hitters in history, AND elude the majority of them if you choose to dance, I don't think that "lucky" shot is going to come.

[Southpaw Stinger]

In fairness, Tyson fought differently to those guys. Nonetheless, Ali took Shavers' best shots, Foreman's, Frazier's, and Lyle's... and he beat them all. This was a past prime Ali. Ali didn't take Liston's best shots, cos he never got caught. He was far too quick for Sonny. So when you can take tens of bombs from the hardest hitters in history, AND elude the majority of them if you choose to dance, I don't think that "lucky" shot is going to come.

Exactly, it depends on which form of Ali fights Tyson. Speedy Ali who could dance and dodge for 15 rounds and throw speedy combos. Or more static Ali who could take more punishment than a tank and still pull out victories with endurance, detirmination and outsmarting his opponents.

I think either Ali would school Tyson.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

Tyson either lands a big shot or wins a close UD.

2 things the whole thing about a UD is its not close if it were close it would have been an SD or at least an MD

Also the fact that Tyson would Decision Ali is alittle far fetched...Tyson would more likely KO or TKO Ali but I don't think Decision him...Ali was the king of Decisions, I believe he won most of his fights by decision (or at least alot)....Plus Ali had more Stamina then Tyson so I don't think Tyson could Comfortabley go into later rounds with Ali....

[Mike Tyson77]

2 things the whole thing about a UD is its not close if it were close it would have been an SD or at least an MD

Also the fact that Tyson would Decision Ali is alittle far fetched...Tyson would more likely KO or TKO Ali but I don't think Decision him...Ali was the king of Decisions, I believe he won most of his fights by decision (or at least alot)....Plus Ali had more Stamina then Tyson so I don't think Tyson could Comfortabley go into later rounds with Ali....

No, a close UD, like this......114-113, 114-113, 115-112 All for Tyson. Tyson would try to knock Ali head off and in doing so wouls rack up a lot of punches and get a win. Tyson was much faster than shavers, foreman, and fraizer and just as strong. He could take Ali, I know Ali could maby beat Tyson, but if I was a beating man Id pick Tyson.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

No, a close UD, like this......114-113, 114-113, 115-112 All for Tyson. Tyson would try to knock Ali head off and in doing so wouls rack up a lot of punches and get a win. Tyson was much faster than shavers, foreman, and fraizer and just as strong. He could take Ali, I know Ali could maby beat Tyson, but if I was a beating man Id pick Tyson.

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yea and got Tyson tired

Tyson's best chance is to KO or TKO Ali before the 8th round

but Ali's fast and hard to hit but if anybody could do it like Joe Frazier did then it would be Tyson..(unlike Joe Frazier though I don't think it would be a decision win)

[Hard Boiled HK]

If Tyson wins, it would HAVE TO BE a knockout. He will not beat Ali by decision.

Also, Mike Tyson 77, would you be so kind as to answer my previous post in this thread? It's directed to you. Thank you.

Edit: That's post #197 in this thread I am referring to.