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No boxer could have beat Mike Tyson on the 22nd of November, 1986

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  • Originally posted by Mike Tyson77
    No, a close UD, like this......114-113, 114-113, 115-112 All for Tyson. Tyson would try to knock Ali head off and in doing so wouls rack up a lot of punches and get a win. Tyson was much faster than shavers, foreman, and fraizer and just as strong. He could take Ali, I know Ali could maby beat Tyson, but if I was a beating man Id pick Tyson.
    Tyson was faster than Shavers and Foreman, but I don't think he cut off the ring as well as Foreman. Foreman was a master at this. Faster than Frazier? Maybe in terms of handspeed, but Frazier is very underrated in the speed department. In addition, Frazier had seemingly unlimited stamina, and possibly the biggest heart the division has seen. His heart is what gave him his victory over a post prime Ali. Any lesser fighter would've folded, he took immense punishment.

    If Tyson tried to knock Ali's head off, he would definately lose by stoppage. He would have to be a little more conserted to win this matchup. Foreman tried it, throwing non-stop leather every round, and he was KTFO. Ali on the other hand, similarly to the likes of Marciano, Frazier etc., could throw a helluva lot of leather for 15 rounds. He would pepper Tyson with his long-range straight shots.

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    • Originally posted by versatile2k6
      hahaha. very true. since i do his style i know what your talking about. whenever i come in quick and throw they other person cant do ****. cause there being overwhelmed with me punching
      they can hook back

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      • Originally posted by Hard Boiled HK
        If Tyson wins, it would HAVE TO BE a knockout. He will not beat Ali by decision.

        Also, Mike Tyson 77, would you be so kind as to answer my previous post in this thread? It's directed to you. Thank you.

        Edit: That's post #197 in this thread I am referring to.

        No one ever beat the Tyson Im talking about. In 86' he was motivated, hungry, and very talented. He also had a great guy in his conner in Kevin Rooney. He's my favorite fighter and the one that got me hooked on Boxing, so of course he's like Superman to me.

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        • No one ever beat the Tyson Im talking about. In 86'
          Again - what decent fighters did Tyson beat in 86?

          You can say that about any fighter, no one beat Ali between 1960 to 1971

          Virtually no one could beat Foreman

          Liston and Frazier also seemed invincible.

          They all beat better guys than Tyson fought at that time so their records are much more impressive.

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          • Originally posted by Mike Tyson77
            How many people beat an 86' Tyson? That's right......NONE. No one was even close.
            The thing is, with this quote you're asking which boxer in 1986 beat Tyson, and since no boxer beat him in 1986, you're saying that version of Tyson was invincible. That is possibly the worst quote you can possibly use in your arguement. And many people have obviously taken advantage of this.

            It's like saying:

            How many people beat a 70' Frazier? That's right......NONE. No one was even close.

            Or

            How many people beat a 67' Ali? That's right......NONE. No one was even close.

            Or

            How many people beat a 73' Foreman? That's right......NONE. No one was even close.

            Etc.

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            • Boxer? hell I dont think Mike coulda beat the current Fedor

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              • Fraizer was knocked down and had some close SD. Ali was knocked down when he was clay by some Henry cooper guy. They where mortal. Tyson WASNT. He could not have been beat, he is the greatest of all time.

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                • Originally posted by Mike Tyson77
                  Fraizer was knocked down and had some close SD. Ali was knocked down when he was clay by some Henry cooper guy. They where mortal. Tyson WASNT. He could not have been beat, he is the greatest of all time.
                  And that is your opinion. I respect that. More people should.

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                  • Originally posted by Mike Tyson77
                    Fraizer was knocked down and had some close SD. Ali was knocked down when he was clay by some Henry cooper guy. They where mortal. Tyson WASNT. He could not have been beat, he is the greatest of all time.

                    When Tyson went down, he stayed down - more than any other champ in history.

                    And you are talking BS if you are saying he could not have been beat, he was knocked out cold when he was 23 for ****s sake!

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                    • Originally posted by Mike Tyson77
                      No one ever beat the Tyson Im talking about. In 86' he was motivated, hungry, and very talented. He also had a great guy in his conner in Kevin Rooney. He's my favorite fighter and the one that got me hooked on Boxing, so of course he's like Superman to me.
                      As far as I know this isn't a Tyson vs Ali thread so I'm not hi******* it by saying that Foreman of the 70's could KO Tyson...Foreman has a good Chin he took hits from Lyle, and took some of Joe Fraziers best...In Foremans prime he only lost too Ali and Young, and Ali beat him because he out smarted Foreman, and Young beat Foreman because he knew that in order to win he'd have to be fast and elusive...

                      Tyson and Foreman are both guys with less then steallar stamina, both like to hit...Tyson's faster and has punching power in both hand, Foreman is moderatly fast and has a right hand with bulldozing force...It would be a slug fest in the early rounds because they both don't like later roudns....let me just say Toe-to-Toe isn't the greatest place for Tyson to be against a guy like Foreman, I'll say Tyson stands as good a chance as any considering his head movement is superb but with Foreman's overall reach advantage and the fact that he eats swarmers alive I don't see even a Prime Tyson getting to Foreman...

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