No boxer could have beat Mike Tyson on the 22nd of November, 1986

[hellfire508]

Fraizer was knocked down and had some close SD. Ali was knocked down when he was clay by some Henry cooper guy. They where mortal. Tyson WASNT. He could not have been beat, he is the greatest of all time.

Tyson wasn't mortal? Wow, what the hell was Buster Douglas then?

Ali was knocked down in 1963 (and still came back the next round and dished out the most concentrated amount of punishment I've seen in the space of 40 seconds or whatever it was, to win). His peak was 1965-7 (would have been 68-9, but that didnt happen). In 1965-7, Ali beat Sonny Liston, Floyd Patterson, George Chuvalo, Henry Cooper, Cleveland Williams, Ernie Terrell and Zora Folley. Plus the German champ Karl Mildenberger, and Brian London, who was nothing basically. All of these fights he won by stoppage, except for Chuvalo, who had the hardest chin in history. He won that fight by a landslide. Against Terrell, he could have finished the fight in the 7th round, and anytime thereafter, but he punished him instead. Probably the most 1 sided 15 rounds you will ever see.

Tyson in 1986 beat something like 13 fighters. That is incredible. However, the opponents were utter ****. With the exception of Berbick (who was nothing special either), he beat nobodies.

I'm not trying to compare the fighters, I'm just showing you that every great champ had times when they looked unstoppable. But they weren't, as everyone except Marciano was shown. Perhaps you will agree, Rocky Marciano was invincible, because he never lost at all?

[Hard Boiled HK]

Fraizer was knocked down and had some close SD. Ali was knocked down when he was clay by some Henry cooper guy. They where mortal. Tyson WASNT. He could not have been beat, he is the greatest of all time.

That is your opinion. And I don't respect that. Less people should, unless you will acknowledge that Buster Douglas is God.

[micky_knox]

As far as I know this isn't a Tyson vs Ali thread so I'm not hi******* it by saying that Foreman of the 70's could KO Tyson...Foreman has a good Chin he took hits from Lyle, and took some of Joe Fraziers best...In Foremans prime he only lost too Ali and Young, and Ali beat him because he out smarted Foreman, and Young beat Foreman because he knew that in order to win he'd have to be fast and elusive...

Tyson and Foreman are both guys with less then steallar stamina, both like to hit...Tyson's faster and has punching power in both hand, Foreman is moderatly fast and has a right hand with bulldozing force...It would be a slug fest in the early rounds because they both don't like later roudns....let me just say Toe-to-Toe isn't the greatest place for Tyson to be against a guy like Foreman, I'll say Tyson stands as good a chance as any considering his head movement is superb but with Foreman's overall reach advantage and the fact that he eats swarmers alive I don't see even a Prime Tyson getting to Foreman...

prime tyson was way to fast for prime forman.......
i just finished watching some dvds...and ive decided that forman was nothing but power,however tyson had power along with speed.......hell tyson could dodge george in his sleep.......
i wasnt sure before but now i am.............i go tyson.

[hellfire508]

prime tyson was way to fast for prime forman.......
i just finished watching some dvds...and ive decided that forman was nothing but power,however tyson had power along with speed.......hell tyson could dodge george in his sleep.......
i wasnt sure before but now i am.............i go tyson.

That's what everyone said about Frazier too. "He's too fast for George. That left hook is like lightning, and it will land all night. George's bombs won't land with Joe bobbing and weaving as quick as he does... easy fight for Joe".

[butterfly1964]

That's what everyone said about Frazier too. "He's too fast for George. That left hook is like lightning, and it will land all night. George's bombs won't land with Joe bobbing and weaving as quick as he does... easy fight for Joe".

You took the words right out of my mouth.

[micky_knox]

That's what everyone said about Frazier too. "He's too fast for George. That left hook is like lightning, and it will land all night. George's bombs won't land with Joe bobbing and weaving as quick as he does... easy fight for Joe".

tyson was a lot faster than joe..........hit harder too
and a better boxer

[hellfire508]

tyson was a lot faster than joe..........hit harder too

Faster how? With combinations perhaps. But Joe's left hook was lightning, and I doubt Tyson's was any quicker. Footspeed, they were both come forward fighters, so it has no relevance against Foreman (who at come-forward fighters alive). Although, the edge would go to Frazier in my books. Hit harder? His right hand was harder, but I think Frazier's left hook is definately as hard as Mike's. Frazier is so underrated its ridiculous.

[micky_knox]

Faster how? With combinations perhaps. But Joe's left hook was lightning, and I doubt Tyson's was any quicker. Footspeed, they were both come forward fighters, so it has no relevance against Foreman (who at come-forward fighters alive). Although, the edge would go to Frazier in my books. Hit harder? His right hand was harder, but I think Frazier's left hook is definately as hard as Mike's. Frazier is so underrated its ridiculous.

i dont underate joe.............i just think tyson was faster with his hands and feet........a better boxer too......
maybe i was wrong in hitting harder,but its close.
i love joe.......his 3 fights with ali are classics.

[Southpaw Stinger]

Tyson was barely faster than Joe at all, and Joe's chin, stamina and detirmination are better than Tyson. Foreman in his prime was not slow at all and any fighter that would try to swarm him would get pasted. No way Tyson comes forward and some how blocks foremans hooks, jabs, uppercuts and pushes to survive and start punching himself.

Foreman to destroy Tyson in 3. foreman destroyed smaller guys.

Liston would destroy Tyson as well in 5 rounds and Ali would school Tyson and finnish him in 9.

[catskills23]

Faster how? With combinations perhaps. But Joe's left hook was lightning, and I doubt Tyson's was any quicker. Footspeed, they were both come forward fighters, so it has no relevance against Foreman (who at come-forward fighters alive). Although, the edge would go to Frazier in my books. Hit harder? His right hand was harder, but I think Frazier's left hook is definately as hard as Mike's. Frazier is so underrated its ridiculous.

Tyson was much faster on his feet than frazier you moron . I mean frazier was a plodder compared to tyson . Tyson was the second quickest heavy ever.