No boxer could have beat Mike Tyson on the 22nd of November, 1986

[K-DOGG]

i give tucker maybe the first and second round. ok he wasnt running he was dancing

Then you just admitted you were wrong. If you give Tucker the 1st and 2nd, that's 2 of the first 5 rounds...aka, they were split.

And...you never answered my question about Liston. Did you ever see any prime footage of Liston? Did you ever see any fight other than the two Ali fights? Liston looked slow against Ali because Ali was so fast...and Liston was 31 going on 35 by then.

Without seeing prime Liston footage, you can't accurately say how fast he was.

[Southpaw Stinger]

yeah i know were talkin styles. tyson had those great fients and was really good at gettin on the inside. ppl that ali fought that smothered his **** he had problems with

Yeah I know man. Norton and Frazier tried to smother Ali and they both had 1 win over on him.

Norton and Frazier tried to smother Foreman and they got pasted in 2 rounds...

[Verstyle]

Then you just admitted you were wrong. If you give Tucker the 1st and 2nd, that's 2 of the first 5 rounds...aka, they were split.

And...you never answered my question about Liston. Did you ever see any prime footage of Liston? Did you ever see any fight other than the two Ali fights? Liston looked slow against Ali because Ali was so fast...and Liston was 31 going on 35 by then.

Without seeing prime Liston footage, you can't accurately say how fast he was.

actually i have. his speed still wasnt all that fast. and tyson could still get outta the way of it

[marvdave]

On that night Mike Tyson was the best fighter to ever step into the ring, nobody could have beat him; he had it all: power, speed, determination, heart, aggression, everything.

In my view it is sad to see a lot of so-called boxing fans pretend to know Tyson was just a bully or a bum and they say he never beat a good fighter.

There might have been boxers with a better resume, a better record, but there is no one who could have been able to defeat a prime Tyson.

"as dave bites his tounge..to avoid going through this argument again with Tyson homers"

[blockhead]

On that night Mike Tyson was the best fighter to ever step into the ring, nobody could have beat him; he had it all: power, speed, determination, heart, aggression, everything.

In my view it is sad to see a lot of so-called boxing fans pretend to know Tyson was just a bully or a bum and they say he never beat a good fighter.

There might have been boxers with a better resume, a better record, but there is no one who could have been able to defeat a prime Tyson.

what oh wait, ohhh this is another "prime" tyson was invinsible thread. i am going to go back to sleep now, this thread is ******ed.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

Prime Tyson was a wrecking machine-
he had it all speed, Power, defense, footwork, decent stamina

but he was impressive but he wasn't unbeatable.

Infact I do believe there are a few boxers from the past who could beat him....

The fact is no fighter in history was unbeatable...Even on their best night any fighter can be beat..See some fighters will beat other fighters, its styles...Its kind of like, Frazier beat Ali, Foreman beat Frazier, Ali beat Foreman...Even though Frazier beat Ali, Ali still beat Foreman its all Styles and what not (I'm not implying Ali was prime)...

I do however feel Foreman would beat Tyson, I do feel Tyson would rip Liston to pieces but this is just my opinion....

Closing thoughts is that no fighter is unbeatable....

Tyson > Liston

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[Hard Boiled HK]

Prime Tyson was a wrecking machine-
he had it all speed, Power, defense, footwork, decent stamina

but he was impressive but he wasn't unbeatable.

Infact I do believe there are a few boxers from the past who could beat him....

Heh, I gotta ask you Rocky, who would win: a prime Tyson vs a prime Marciano?

[Hard Boiled HK]

yeah tyson moves foward but we all know patterson wasnt as fast with defense then tyson and had power like tyson. plus tyson was a better counter puncher also and very elusive

True, Patterson wasn't as fast with defense as Tyson, but Tyson wasn't as fast on offense as Patterson. Patterson couldn't touch Liston, and even though Tyson had better defense, he would still had to block Liston's destructive punches. Besides, as stated before by someone else, Tyson would be scared of Liston and would step into the ring with fear before the bell rings.

[Southpaw16]

dont worry whenever talkin about a PRIME tyson they always refer to his days outta his prime.they only do it with tyson which is weird

Don't try to make it sound like Tyson is being picked on, because his fans argue for his place in history, he gets the benefit of assumptions that no other boxer in history gets.

The two main arguments that his fans use for his place in history:

-he was past his prime before age 25.

-none of his losses count against his legacy because before they happened, he chose to fire his coach.

Name me one other boxer in history who is considered to be past his prime at age 25. Name me another boxer in history who people attribute all of their losses to a coaching change.

THOSE statements my friend, are what I call weird.

[Hard Boiled HK]

Don't try to make it sound like Tyson is being picked on, because his fans argue for his place in history, he gets the benefit of assumptions that no other boxer in history gets.

The two main arguments that his fans use for his place in history:

-he was past his prime before age 25.

-none of his losses count against his legacy because before they happened, he chose to fire his coach.

Name me one other boxer in history who is considered to be past his prime at age 25. Name me another boxer in history who people attribute all of their losses to a coaching change.

THOSE statements my friend, are what I call weird.

Exactly. Who the hell would be past their prime before age 25?? The fact that he fired his coach -- well that's his problem.