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No boxer could have beat Mike Tyson on the 22nd of November, 1986

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
    Yeah I seen Liston in his prime, he is more intimidating than Tyson - he had an amazing jab, long reach, strength, power and size and would beat Tyson IMO.
    Foreman wasn't that slow in his prime and besides, Tyson would be trying to get on the inside of Foreman and he would get crushed in the process. Foreman is too big and strong for someone like Tyson.
    And if you compare Ali to tyrell biggs you got a problem.
    Ali is faster than Tyson with a great reach, a great chin and is incredibly adaptable in the ring and has too much stamina.

    u tellin me a prime tyson didnt have alot of stamina??? and tyson is a mid-range fighter.frazier was pretty much a inside fighter big difference when facing tyson.and all the things u mentioned about liston 1 thing u didnt mention that he doesnt have is speed.and as i stated before how r u going to hit some1 that u cant touch and counters off of every slow punch u throw

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    • #32
      and all the things u mentioned about liston 1 thing u didnt mention that he doesnt have is speed.and as i stated before how r u going to hit some1 that u cant touch and counters off of every slow punch u throw
      Liston flattened Patterson in one round, and Patterson is faster than Tyson.
      Since Tyson moves forwards Liston is going to connect.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by K-DOGG
        Power....Liston, Foreman, Lyle, and Shavers
        Speed....Patterson was probably the most comparable.


        But...Who has Tyson ever faced with the handspeed/footspeed combination of an Ali?

        Answer..no one.

        If Tyson had trouble with Tucker, and Douglas (Mike was still in his prime against Douglas as evidenced by his dominating performances over Stewart and Ruddock...too bad he wasn't in shape; but that's no excuse). If Douglas could do that to Tyson...Ali would have messed him up.

        Also, Mike was proven to be a mentally fragile individual...that didn't just happen in prison. He was an orphaned kid who beat up old ladies and ******ed young girls...he was insecure and needed to dominte others to feel strong in himself.

        Ali's mindgames would have messed him up before the bell rang.

        tyson didnt have a problem with tucker ahahahahaha. he won like every round so how is that having a problem think about that

        and biggs wasnt as fast as ali but he did have the handspeed and footspeed combination and quick tillis and tony tucker

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
          Liston flattened Patterson in one round, and Patterson is faster than Tyson.
          Since Tyson moves forwards Liston is going to connect.

          yeah tyson moves foward but we all know patterson wasnt as fast with defense then tyson and had power like tyson. plus tyson was a better counter puncher also and very elusive

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          • #35
            Originally posted by versatile2k6
            tyson didnt have a problem with tucker ahahahahaha. he won like every round so how is that having a problem think about that

            and biggs wasnt as fast as ali but he did have the handspeed and footspeed combination and quick tillis and tony tucker
            Go back and look at the Tucker fight. The first 5 rounds were split. It was only after Tucker went into survival mode that Mike dominated. And, obviously he had trouble or he would have knocked him out.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by K-DOGG
              Go back and look at the Tucker fight. The first 5 rounds were split. It was only after Tucker went into survival mode that Mike dominated. And, obviously he had trouble or he would have knocked him out.

              the first 5 rounds wasnt split ahaha. thats my favorite fight of all time i watch it constantly.and its hard to ko some1 thats running most of the time. jus ask ali's opponents

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              • #37
                Originally posted by versatile2k6
                the first 5 rounds wasnt split ahaha. thats my favorite fight of all time i watch it constantly.and its hard to ko some1 thats running most of the time. jus ask ali's opponents
                He wasn't running. He was holding and Mike was letting him, showing his ineptitude at infighting. And the first 5 round were split. Tucker won some rounds somewhere....in the first 5 rounds when he was strong. Otherwise the scores would have read a shutout...which they didn't.

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                • #38
                  and its hard to ko some1 thats running most of the time.
                  Which is why Tyson would not stop Ali. Ali could run for 15 rounds and he had a great chin when/if you caught him.

                  I'm not sayin it would be an easy fight for Ali. Ali would obviously would have trouble with Tyson but he would come out on top in the end. And Tyson has a better chance of beating Ali than he does of beating Foreman. We're talkin styles here man.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by K-DOGG
                    He wasn't running. He was holding and Mike was letting him, showing his ineptitude at infighting. And the first 5 round were split. Tucker won some rounds somewhere....in the first 5 rounds when he was strong. Otherwise the scores would have read a shutout...which they didn't.

                    i give tucker maybe the first and second round. ok he wasnt running he was dancing

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
                      Which is why Tyson would not stop Ali. Ali could run for 15 rounds and he had a great chin when/if you caught him.

                      I'm not sayin it would be an easy fight for Ali. Ali would obviously would have trouble with Tyson but he would come out on top in the end. And Tyson has a better chance of beating Ali than he does of beating Foreman. We're talkin styles here man.

                      yeah i know were talkin styles. tyson had those great fients and was really good at gettin on the inside. ppl that ali fought that smothered his **** he had problems with

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