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No boxer could have beat Mike Tyson on the 22nd of November, 1986

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  • Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
    Then you obviously don't know very much. Johnson is extremely overated with a padded record. he lost a lot of fights also. boxing evolved a lot from his time and most heavyweight from the 70's onwards would school him. Tyson would KO him early as well.
    to hard to say how good johnson really was........not enough video of him.....

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    • yeah even given night ne fighter could be beaten soooo yeah i said it

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      • to hard to say how good johnson really was........not enough video of him.....
        Theres more footage of him than you think. I've seen quite a lot and wasn't impressed at all by it. Didn't beat many good guys and has losses and draws throughout his career so he didn't have an "invincible" stage like most greats.
        He beat a tiny Tommy Burns who was like 6/7 inches shorter than him and a lot lighter. He also beat a very past his prime Jim Jeffries. Most of the rest of his career was against nobody's.

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        • Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
          Then you obviously don't know very much. Johnson is extremely overated with a padded record. he lost a lot of fights also. boxing evolved a lot from his time and most heavyweight from the 70's onwards would school him. Tyson would KO him early as well.
          Well, in that case Jack Dempsey is extremely overrated too, since he has a lot of losses and draws, plus he fought a lot of nobodies. He beat an old Willard and suckerpunched Sharkey.

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          • Well, in that case Jack Dempsey is extremely overrated too, since he has a lot of losses and draws, plus he fought a lot of nobodies. He beat an old Willard and suckerpunched Sharkey.
            Yeah probably dempsey is overated. A lot of fighters are from that era.
            But then again no one has ever said Dempsey was invincible or the greatest like some people have here about Johnson.

            So Johnson is definatly more overated whichever way you look at it.
            Last edited by Southpaw Stinger; 06-30-2006, 05:37 PM.

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            • Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
              Then you obviously don't know very much. Johnson is extremely overated with a padded record. he lost a lot of fights also. boxing evolved a lot from his time and most heavyweight from the 70's onwards would school him. Tyson would KO him early as well.

              Man, Jack Johnson became Heavyweight Champion in 1908. African Americans where treated like dirt in 1908. Then Jack Johnson became the baddest man on the planet. He had an 11 year unbeaten streak. He also beat all the top fighters of his time, he can do no more than that.

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              • Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
                no one has ever said Dempsey was invincible or the greatest like some people have here about Johnson.
                Oh really? You wanna bet? Most people I've heard of or come into contact with rank Dempsey above Johnson, so I would say Dempsey is more built up then Johnson.

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                • Originally posted by Mike Tyson77
                  Man, Jack Johnson became Heavyweight Champion in 1908. African Americans where treated like dirt in 1908. Then Jack Johnson became the baddest man on the planet. He had an 11 year unbeaten streak. He also beat all the top fighters of his time, he can do no more than that.
                  Hey, great post! I couldn't agree more. He was a bad man and whupped everybody. Good k for you. Jack Johnson is a legend!

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                  • Originally posted by butterfly1964
                    Hey, great post! I couldn't disagree any more. He was a bad man and got whupped by everybody. bad k for you. Jack Johnson is a legend!

                    shut up butterfly

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                    • Originally posted by versatile2k6
                      shut up butterfly
                      Aaaaaand what was the point of this?

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