Why do people like Roberto Duran

[The plunger man]

I'm going to stop you there. Ray has proven that who he is without a doubt. Don't come on here trying to call him out saying he is a fraud. It has been done before. It doesn't end well. Show Ray the respect he has earned in this game or go back to the Non-Stop Boxing section.

Slow the f@ck down ....because I don't consider Ray Ray Robinson the greatest of all time...that's not showing him respect....I said he was amazing for his era and that's as far as it go's ....I never saw him in the flesh and I only saw old films of him and because I believe evolution in athletes I'm wrong for not giving ray Robinson his greatest ever tag....this is where we stop talking because because obviously you can't other people's opinions....now I'm gonna say one thing to you...if you don't like my opinions on who I consider great then don't comment simple.....I never said Ray Robinson was not great I just I don't put him head and shoulders above every fighter who has ever lived...Enough of the bull**** don't respond to me anymore

[The plunger man]

...44 going on 12?................another know it all whose never been in a gym let alone boxed. Good luck with this one, someone try to find the "goober magnet" so they can't be attracted to the place anymore.........


...."different eras cannot be compared". sorry but your wrong!
If you know what your watching you can evaluate skills and compare talent.
If you don't know techniques you can't judge skill levels.
If you've never been taught correctly I don't expect anyone to know how to
evaluate.

Good luck on the forum, you'll need it! ........

Ray

Obviously you have a short memory Ray because about 3 or 4 months ago I discussed with you about my career and how long I boxed for.....and what I did...but I don't need clearance from you ....and we had a good discussion about sugar ray Robinson and our views on discussing about how we view....I gave him props but I also said I've seen enough of him to make my own judgement.......it's old ground and you think your way and I'll look at what I see and read and make my own judgements.....yes it's a history but I didn't realise you have to part of the yes crowd to post on here.....the greatest boxer of his era no doubt.....the same reason why Ali was in his era and Louis in his and Duran in his his...that's as far as it go's for me...but stick to your views and crack on but don't try and force your opinions on to others who don't agree with you....it's a forum Where you debate not some communist vote where you have to be unison .....next thing your be saying is Jesse Owens was quicker than usain bolt....good day

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Slow the f@ck down ....because I don't consider Ray Ray Robinson the greatest of all time...that's not showing him respect....I said he was amazing for his era and that's as far as it go's ....I never saw him in the flesh and I only saw old films of him and because I believe evolution in athletes I'm wrong for not giving ray Robinson his greatest ever tag....this is where we stop talking because because obviously you can't other people's opinions....now I'm gonna say one thing to you...if you don't like my opinions on who I consider great then don't comment simple.....I never said Ray Robinson was not great I just I don't put him head and shoulders above every fighter who has ever lived...Enough of the bull**** don't respond to me anymore

I was talking about showing Ray Corso respect

[The plunger man]

I was talking about showing Ray Corso respect

I do show respect to people but I won't be talked down to like I'm some under age teenager who should sit in the corner and say nothing.....I'm not a kid mate and respect other people's opinions and as long as I get the same respect in return...calling me kiddo and I how I have not been in a gym is not respectful especially if a conversation had taken place a few months back.....the conversation was condescending to me as well but in future I'll let things roll....I will give a short opinion on why I don't agree but that's as far as it will go with certian posters...

[Mr.MojoRisin']

I do show respect to people but I won't be talked down to like I'm some under age teenager who should sit in the corner and say nothing.....I'm not a kid mate and respect other people's opinions and as long as I get the same respect in return...calling me kiddo and I how I have not been in a gym is not respectful especially if a conversation had taken place a few months back.....the conversation was condescending to me as well but in future I'll let things roll....I will give a short opinion on why I don't agree but that's as far as it will go with certian posters...

You were insulting his credibility saying he was a **** trainer and all that. I'm not saying don't argue for your opinion because that is the entire point of this section. I'm saying don't call him out on being a bad coach because he obviously was a good one. Other than that do whatever the **** you want.

[The plunger man]

You were insulting his credibility saying he was a **** trainer and all that. I'm not saying don't argue for your opinion because that is the entire point of this section. I'm saying don't call him out on being a bad coach because he obviously was a good one. Other than that do whatever the **** you want.

as I said before this conversations finished

[Panamaniac]

My 2-cents:

I'm not going to repeat all the other reasons already mentioned on this thread. Suffice it to say that people like Duran because he was a "crowd-pleaser." He climbed into the ring to fight, he brought the fight to his opponents. Despite his predatory aggressiveness, he was gifted with subtle, but effective defensive skills.

[Anthony342]

Yep. that right there. And because he was a great fighter, one of the best ever at lightweight, who also did well when he moved up in weight.

[billeau2]

Duran had "presence." I once asked Joe who the scarest fighter he ever met in person...He told me it was Duran...something about his eyes, his mannerisms, etc.

[Panamaniac]

Duran had "presence." I once asked Joe who the scarest fighter he ever met in person...He told me it was Duran...something about his eyes, his mannerisms, etc.

To be more specific, when asked who Duran reminded him of, Joe Frazier said his eyes reminded him of Charles Manson...