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Do you rank Larry Holmes above Rocky Marciano?

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  • I think Larry has many more options in the ring than Rock had.
    Larry could get off on lateral moves and come in & out and he did have nice quick head movement and could counter punch off that.
    He learned how to deal with a fighter backing up willing by working with Ali as a young up and comer.
    However Rock doesn't get his dues because the fights he's mostly associated with are against Charles, Walcott and Moore all hall of famers. Yes Archie was older but after the Marciano loss he went 39-2-2 not exactly in a rockin' chair!
    Rock was very hard to hit solidly and his power would move a fighter off balance and then he'd capitalize off that method.
    There was more to Marciano than the novice fan understands.
    He didn't go low by the waist bend he broke down at the knees and that gave him the overhands along with the wide shots.
    He would also goat his opponents into throwing right hands by leaning out to his right but his counter right to the heart or kidney or over the top as a counter was very effective.
    This guys proportions were incredible, his calfs and forearms were huge and his muscle mass was thick but not high peaked.
    His endurance was uncanny and in the ring he was a mean man.
    For that matter outside the ring wasn't a place to mess with him either.
    He was a much better athlete than most know and was a very good baseball player he just wasn't going to box like Joe Louis!

    Ray

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    • Originally posted by Ziggy Stardust View Post
      You don't suppose he's the latest incarnation of "Elroy"? There seems some similarities.....
      I think what happened was Elroy was told to put the rubber over his head and he took the advice literally...In the end we lost one idiot to asxphyxiation but one of the *****s made it through and we now have "semi brain."

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      • Originally posted by Ray Corso View Post
        I think Larry has many more options in the ring than Rock had.
        Larry could get off on lateral moves and come in & out and he did have nice quick head movement and could counter punch off that.
        He learned how to deal with a fighter backing up willing by working with Ali as a young up and comer.
        However Rock doesn't get his dues because the fights he's mostly associated with are against Charles, Walcott and Moore all hall of famers. Yes Archie was older but after the Marciano loss he went 39-2-2 not exactly in a rockin' chair!
        Rock was very hard to hit solidly and his power would move a fighter off balance and then he'd capitalize off that method.
        There was more to Marciano than the novice fan understands.
        He didn't go low by the waist bend he broke down at the knees and that gave him the overhands along with the wide shots.
        He would also goat his opponents into throwing right hands by leaning out to his right but his counter right to the heart or kidney or over the top as a counter was very effective.
        This guys proportions were incredible, his calfs and forearms were huge and his muscle mass was thick but not high peaked.
        His endurance was uncanny and in the ring he was a mean man.
        For that matter outside the ring wasn't a place to mess with him either.
        He was a much better athlete than most know and was a very good baseball player he just wasn't going to box like Joe Louis!

        Ray
        Imagine the insight Goldman must have posessed to see the potential with Marciano? Holmes lateral movement was always a pleasure to watch... Much more orthodox than Ali's!

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        • Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
          I think what happened was Elroy was told to put the rubber over his head and he took the advice literally...In the end we lost one idiot to asxphyxiation but one of the *****s made it through and we now have "semi brain."
          :hahahaha9:

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          • Originally posted by Ziggy Stardust View Post
            Don't be butthurt. The truth is you have no credibility, so any "opinion" you offer can be safely disregarded. The fact that you're a size whore lowers your credibility even further.
            SOOOOOOOOOOO, youre NOT about pure FACTS. just as emotional as that fat ugly broad at the club complaining about how much make up the other girls are wearing.

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            • Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
              One sign of mental ******ation is when someone repeats a statement that has no relevance over and over... "Can you name giants rocky beat up?" Listen and try to focus: That may be what you think this is about...but your getting feedback that it is not. Ill refresh once more and call it a day:

              You made some unqualified dumb remarks Initially. you were shown proof to show you, in a constructive manner, that you were mislead...Nobody even actually said Holmes of Marciano would prevail mind you... You then became anally chaffed because it became obvious that proof had been put forward.

              Then another poster explained to you that what you think Marciano needed to be succesful was way off...Others had also tried to explain to you that for a man who had less reach than virtually every opponent he faced, reach would not be such a handicap to overcome...kind of common sense, and kind of like there are great fighters with precedent...but your **** chaffe continued onward!

              I guess a lot of idiots at this point use a device that Hillary Clinton likes to use: repeat something ridiculous enough times and the five hundreth time someone might buy it. So here you are, discusting avi in check, repeating some nonsense about giants...

              you might take a clue and just stop posting nonsense, but I doubt you will.
              i guess if rocky had just ONE name to roll out, youd be the 1st one to blurt it out.

              tough break, fan boy. you and your delusional kind can continue with your fantasy. easy when youre chest bumping your monitor.

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              • Originally posted by SemiGreat View Post
                SOOOOOOOOOOO, youre NOT about pure FACTS. just as emotional as that fat ugly broad at the club complaining about how much make up the other girls are wearing.
                Look, Elroy, you don't have any credibility nor did you have any in your previous incarnation. You credibility is not simply at 0, given your race bating posts in the 'Dome, your credibility is in negative territory. No to mention that you've already contradicted yourself earlier in the thread, bot just in the same post, but in the same ****ing sentence.

                So, instead of trying to divert the thread into irrelevancies (size whoring), why not attempt some analysis that at least borders on semi-intelligent?

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                • Originally posted by Ziggy Stardust View Post
                  Look, Elroy, you don't have any credibility nor did you have any in your previous incarnation. You credibility is not simply at 0, given your race bating posts in the 'Dome, your credibility is in negative territory. No to mention that you've already contradicted yourself earlier in the thread, bot just in the same post, but in the same ****ing sentence.

                  So, instead of trying to divert the thread into irrelevancies (size whoring), why not attempt some analysis that at least borders on semi-intelligent?
                  1st paragraph i used for e toilet paper.

                  when i mentioned larrys size....A RELEVANT STAT, fan boy supreme got all hot and mean. so, i challenged him and any other groupie to tell us all of the names mr scientific angles beat that fit larrys size.

                  when your bitter kind failed, out comes the gayest replies known to man.

                  cong****.

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                  • Originally posted by SemiGreat View Post
                    1st paragraph i used for e toilet paper.

                    when i mentioned larrys size....A RELEVANT STAT, fan boy supreme got all hot and mean. so, i challenged him and any other groupie to tell us all of the names mr scientific angles beat that fit larrys size.

                    when your bitter kind failed, out comes the gayest replies known to man.

                    cong****.
                    You're dodging, Elroy. Let's have some RELIVENT analysis (non-size whoring). Surely someone who's talking lots of **** like you are can come up SOMETHING of substance, right? Or are you just the one-note-joke you're making yourself out to be?

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                    • Originally posted by Ziggy Stardust View Post
                      You're dodging, Elroy. Let's have some RELIVENT analysis (non-size whoring). Surely someone who's talking lots of **** like you are can come up SOMETHING of substance, right? Or are you just the one-note-joke you're making yourself out to be?
                      once again, its only size ''whoring'' because i killed yet another myth.

                      my work here is completed. let me know if there are anymore myths i can debunk

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