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  • #81
    Originally posted by Mr.MojoRisin' View Post
    Weaver, Norton, Cobb, Cooney, Ali, Berbick, Shavers, Witherspoon, Spinks, etc....None of these guys would have beaten Marciano at the time they fought Holmes.

    There are no technically "wrong" answers but there are outlandish ones. Me saying that a rubber duck beats Marciano isn't as plausible as saying prime Muhammad Ali beats Marciano just because it isn't provable.
    i cant see rocky dealing with fighters of these sizes hes never faced anyone like these hw. it is not that big of a reach to assume rocky loses to a bunch of bigger hw. the norton that fought holmes, imho, beats rocky. ditto spoon and spinks.

    yeah, rocky was ''fun'' to watch and his style suits many fans tastes BUT he was as limited as it got. one LEGIT prime guy and his 0 is done.in no realm of reality does rocky go undefeated with larrys resume.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by SemiGreat View Post
      i cant see rocky dealing with fighters of these sizes hes never faced anyone like these hw. it is not that big of a reach to assume rocky loses to a bunch of bigger hw. the norton that fought holmes, imho, beats rocky. ditto spoon and spinks.

      yeah, rocky was ''fun'' to watch and his style suits many fans tastes BUT he was as limited as it got. one LEGIT prime guy and his 0 is done.in no realm of reality does rocky go undefeated with larrys resume.
      Yeah Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, and Joe Louis were defenseless old farts.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Mr.MojoRisin' View Post
        Yeah Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, and Joe Louis were defenseless old farts.

        I guess to an idiot who has a diaper wearing simp as his avi, one legitimate guy was all it would take! Cause some guys don't let logic get in the way of a good opinion.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Mr.MojoRisin' View Post
          Yeah Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, and Joe Louis were defenseless old farts.
          you typed it before i could.

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          • #85
            Here's how the fight would go:

            Holmes would start the fight using his excellent jab, Keeping Rocky at bay and building up an amass of points whilst churning up Marciano's face. However, in the latter rounds, when the jab starts losing power and sharpness, Rocky would start to get through it and find a place for that right/left hand.

            Holmes lasts until the end of the fight and wins an MD/UD.

            Unless Marciano adopted and developed a bobbing, Tyson-like, 'peak-a-boo' style then I can't see Rocky winning the fight.

            Both ATG fighters but Rocky may have just been too small at heavyweight.

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            • #86
              The guy responsible for the most retirements in boxing history. The guy who broke more bones than anyone else in boxing history. The throwback who threw harder than most sidearms. The guy who felt the canvas the least in HW history.


              Most of what I've read discredits Rocky for not being good at what he never needed to be good at in the first place than supposes one has to acquire those skills in order to be better than Larry. It's absurd. Even if your opinion is Larry was better that sort of evidence is just ******. It doesn't reflect how either fight fought just what you think it takes to beat a fighter.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post
                The guy responsible for the most retirements in boxing history. The guy who broke more bones than anyone else in boxing history. The throwback who threw harder than most sidearms. The guy who felt the canvas the least in HW history.


                Most of what I've read discredits Rocky for not being good at what he never needed to be good at in the first place than supposes one has to acquire those skills in order to be better than Larry. It's absurd. Even if your opinion is Larry was better that sort of evidence is just ******. It doesn't reflect how either fight fought just what you think it takes to beat a fighter.
                same way rocky gets the auto win vs guys of a certain size. just because hes rocky and has so many legitimate prime corpses laying on the ground.

                to blindly give rocky those wins is never said to be ******. and retiring people who are of age isnt that impressive (go on and mention la starza).

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
                  I guess to an idiot who has a diaper wearing simp as his avi, one legitimate guy was all it would take! Cause some guys don't let logic get in the way of a good opinion.
                  you still cant name a giant that rocky beat.....maybe youre too busy staring at my avi to name them all

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                  • #89
                    ''i know ! ill call someone who disagrees with me an idiot ! that will prove just how smart i am !''

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by SemiGreat View Post
                      ''i know ! ill call someone who uses logic with me an idiot ! that will prove just how smart i am !''
                      Fixed for ya

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