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  • #21
    Originally posted by phallus View Post
    nigel benn wasn't afraid of anybody, he kept asking roy jones for a fight after he won the 168 belt. I love nigel benn but roy is a bad, bad match for him



    barkley was like a less skilled G-man. when mclellan stepped in the ring he had an evil look in his eyes
    Toney was battering G-man in sparring also.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rds2-iNML00

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    • #22
      Originally posted by escudo View Post
      Toney was battering G-man in sparring also.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rds2-iNML00
      Good find.

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      • #23
        Ol' thug Toney was quite skilled with a great chin and a good punch. If he had had some foot speed, who knows? His feet were born in cement.

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        • #24
          Toney was just something else in his prime.

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          • #25
            not only did Toney school Barkley in a bad way, Duran really put on a masterclass too. Duran showed some slick AF skills in there too - I want to say even slicker than Toney, just he was older and past prime and had to take breaks.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by them_apples View Post
              not only did Toney school Barkley in a bad way, Duran really put on a masterclass too. Duran showed some slick AF skills in there too - I want to say even slicker than Toney, just he was older and past prime and had to take breaks.

              Duran may have schooled Barkley but he did not beat him. I have watched that fight several times recently. Clear instance to me of the Schulberg effect, where an apparently overmatched fighter by doing so much better than expected shocks the judges and crowd into a decision which later review shows he did not deserve. Sometimes favorite legends also receive big benefits in the form of points. Duran--one of my favorite fighters--had both going for him in the fight. He took a heap of punishment throughout, but in characteristic Duran fashion, kept dishing it out as well. It is pretty clear Barkely beat on him more than he beat on Barkley, though they both did a fine job of beating on the other. Duran took his greater load of punishment with less loss of form than Barkley did, which idiot judges always seem to reward. I love Duran, but that was the Schulberg effect.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by escudo View Post
                Toney was battering G-man in sparring also.
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rds2-iNML00
                Great stuff. Green K

                Edit: have to spread it around first

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
                  Duran may have schooled Barkley but he did not beat him. I have watched that fight several times recently. Clear instance to me of the Schulberg effect, where an apparently overmatched fighter by doing so much better than expected shocks the judges and crowd into a decision which later review shows he did not deserve. Sometimes favorite legends also receive big benefits in the form of points. Duran--one of my favorite fighters--had both going for him in the fight. He took a heap of punishment throughout, but in characteristic Duran fashion, kept dishing it out as well. It is pretty clear Barkely beat on him more than he beat on Barkley, though they both did a fine job of beating on the other. Duran took his greater load of punishment with less loss of form than Barkley did, which idiot judges always seem to reward. I love Duran, but that was the Schulberg effect.
                  great observation. i would have to watch that fight again to see if I agree, and when I have a spare moment I will.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by HandsofIron View Post
                    Barkley was washed-up and past it when he fought Toney.
                    People are ignoring this for some reason.

                    Beating the **** out of a past it Barkely is supposed to be impressive?

                    Ok......

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                    • #30
                      Stephen "Breadman" Edwards had an interesting thing to say in his latest Daily Bread mailbag.

                      They asked him to name some of his perfect fights in history and he listed this particular bout as one of the examples. I thought that was a nice compliment.



                      "Toney vs Barkley. If this isn’t perfect, modern infighting I don’t know what is."

                      - See more at: http://www.boxingscene.com/daily-bre....5tMLzMaK.dpuf

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