Heavyweights who beat prime World Class Opposition

[Ray Corso]

WSjr..."I'm still trying to work out if your ******ed, insane or just know zero about boxing or indeed facts or logic".


......and there it is in a but shell! Add in a childlike need for attention!

Ray.

[Ray Corso]

Larry Holmes;
E. Shavers (2)
K. Norton
Evangelista
Ocasio (young and only 13-0 but up and coming)
G. Cooney
T. Cobb (Tex's prime)
Witherspoon
Frank
J. Smith
Bey
Nielson
Williams
Tyson L.
M. Spinks.2 .L. (bad calls in my opinion but L on his record).
Holyfield..L

Ray

[Scott9945]

Yes Tyson won every round, both fights. It was very easy fights for Mike, as Ruddock was very limited. Ruddock's claim to fame was knocking out junkie Mike Dokes. But you try to glorify Ruddock as a world-beater, in an effort to make your idol Lennox Lewis win over Ruddock look better. Ruddock was brutally beaten by Tyson, so much so, that his jaw, cheeckbone and eye-socket was smashed. Ruddock was clearly "Damaged-Goods" the night he fought Lewis, he never through a single punch in the fight. He was pathetic.

I wasn't trying to say anything about Ruddock. I didn't refer to his fight with Lewis. All I did was state what would be an obvious fact about the scoring of their fights. Anyone can go to boxrec and see for themselves. Tyson lost one round in their first fight and several in their rematch.

Of course you're the genius who once claimed that in a 12 round fight, each fighter starts with 120 points. It isn't hard to see why it is difficult for you to comprehend how boxing matches are scored.

[WalkerSmithJnr]

I wasn't trying to say anything about Ruddock. I didn't refer to his fight with Lewis. All I did was state what would be an obvious fact about the scoring of their fights. Anyone can go to boxrec and see for themselves. Tyson lost one round in their first fight and several in their rematch.

Of course you're the genius who once claimed that in a 12 round fight, each fighter starts with 120 points. It isn't hard to see why it is difficult for you to comprehend how boxing matches are scored.

The judges are always right except when the don't agree with Soppyboy.
He even changes the judges verdict in trials when it suits like Mercer being found guilty, guy is unwell the best thing is to completely ignore him

[joe strong]

Did Lewis really defeat Vitali?

Rahman World Class Rahman is by far, the worst fighter to ever hold the title.

The title of the thread says HW who beat a prime world class opponent. Both my picks did that. Obviously you don't like Lewis so it is pointless debating with you...

[JAB5239]

LOL... Yes, Hasim Rahman is the worst fighter to ever hold the Heavyweight title.... who was worse than Rahman?

How do i question Lewis victory over Vitali?.. Did the crowd in attendance question it?... Did Lewis promise the entire boxing world, he would face Vitali in a return fight?.... lol

Shannon Briggs
Marvin Hart
Leon Spinks

These are just a few that spring to mind. I have little doubt I could come up with plenty of others.

So you question the Lewis victory because the crowd didn't like the stoppage? It's pretty funny that in the Hagler-Duran thread the common fan cannot come to a reasonable conclusion about a fight and only professionals opinions matter, but here you're willing to go in the opposite direction completely exposing your agenda. You just played yourself kid!

[sonnyboyx2]

Shannon Briggs
Marvin Hart
Leon Spinks

These are just a few that spring to mind. I have little doubt I could come up with plenty of others.

So you question the Lewis victory because the crowd didn't like the stoppage? It's pretty funny that in the Hagler-Duran thread the common fan cannot come to a reasonable conclusion about a fight and only professionals opinions matter, but here you're willing to go in the opposite direction completely exposing your agenda. You just played yourself kid!

Shannon Briggs, Marvin Hart & Leon Spinks are vastly superior fighters in every aspect of the game, than what Hasim Rahman has ever been. Briggs fought 7 former heavyweight champions, beating 3 of them, and drawing with another. Biggs twice went the full distance with current title holders, in title fights.

Marvin Hart defeated 4 IBHOF fighters, i need not continue with educating you with his excellent career. As it would be folly. Yet compared to Hasim Rahman, Hart is on a different level.

Leon Spinks went the championship distance of 15 rounds, Twice, winning and losing, against the Universally Greatest Heavyweight Champion of all times. Spinks had one of the greatest Amateur careers ever, culminating in him winning Olympic Gold Medal. Spinks was thought good enough to fight 3 Heavyweight champions, within his first 15 bouts. Spinks fought World rated contenders as early as his 6th bout and over the 10 round distance.. Hasim Rahman could not go 15rds if no one was even hitting him.

Hasim Rahman fought Oleg Maskaev Twice, NO Champion in the history of boxing, has been poleaxed twice in such fashion. Not even Lennox Lewis, who was poleaxed by mediocre journeymen twice. Maskaev completely demolished Rahman twice. For you to claim Rahman is not the worst in history, is laughable. He quit rather than take a beating from James Toney. He was beaten to a pulp by old Holyfield, who couldn't fight longer than a minute of each round.

I have not questioned the Lewis victory as you claim. Millions of boxing fans worldwide questioned it. Lewis boasted, "One brother for breakfast, the other brother for Tea".. He very nearly came unstuck, against the worst of the brothers. Lewis quickly ran off into retirement with his trousers full of brown. At the thought of facing Wladimir

[sonnyboyx2]

Larry Holmes;
E. Shavers (2)
K. Norton
Evangelista
Ocasio (young and only 13-0 but up and coming)
G. Cooney
T. Cobb (Tex's prime)
Witherspoon
Frank
J. Smith
Bey
Nielson
Williams
Tyson L.
M. Spinks.2 .L. (bad calls in my opinion but L on his record).
Holyfield..L

Ray

Prime World Class Opponents... ?

[sonnyboyx2]

Lennox TKO6 Vitali
Rahman over Lewis

Rahman.... ?

[billeau2]

rotflmao.... you are so silly billy.

Tommy Morrison was exposed and knocked out by Michael Bent. Morrison was a self-confessed steroid abuser. Morrison had been exposed and knocked out by the limited Ray Mercer, the samer Ray Mercer who lost every round in his previous fight to old 45yr old Larry Holmes. The same Ray Mercer who tried and was found guilty, of trying to bribe his opponent Jesse Ferguson during their fight. Mercer easily knocked out the very limited Tommy Morrison.. lol Let us also not forget Morrison tested HIV positive after the Lewis debacle.

The bottom line is Lennox Lewis fought NO Prime World Class Opposition..so no matter how many insults and name calling posts you make, the fact remains, Lewis fought none.

You along with several others on this forum, are far to defensive of Lewis, you have made complete and utter fools of yourselves, by jumping to conclusions and trying to rubbish this thread. You have contributed immensely to Lewis being given page upon page of scrutiny. Which has shown him in a very bad light. Whereas, if you had just gone along with the truth of "Lewis fought None" you would realize it is no bad thing. Joe Louis fought none. Most heavyweight champions in history fought none. But you clowns, brought Lewis into the equation, and are trying to claim journeymen to be Prime World Class Opposition... You Fools!

First off, there is no such thing as "world class opposition" Your an idiot who, in an effort to once again push your tired bs thought you would make up a category to be cute...being such an idiot you realized that this little construction of yours was ill concieved so you tried to switch to "prime opposition." And you have been since that time trying to backpeddle into your same ****** agenda. Finally you got the brilliant idea to put both terms toether thinking, I would imagine, that if one takes one piece of **** and another, combines them, obviously one will have gold...what an idiot!

Sonny...your just none too bright. When you try to argue on your feet, or try to spring a trap your not intellectually able to anticipate any situations that may arise...this is why you had to change your ****** jingoism "world class opposition" to "prime opposition." Lets look at how god awful ****** you are:

World class opposition? does that mean Ward doesn't qualify because he fights in Oakland? Or that one has to have fought people from many countries? and how does this make one better exactly? do you perhaps mean elite? or some other such thing? ditto for prime opposition. What you mean and are too ****** to understand is "opponents in the prime of their career".

So how does world class opposition become the same as opponents in their prime? You know how? your a moron thats how. YOur ****** and persistant and a nuisance and little else and notice how many times I mentioned Lewis in this post because you not even being able to set a trap right, using terms you created like a four year old in a sand box, does not even let us touch on why you created this thread in the first place...which is to spread the ******ity.

Get some brains before you try to be cute, your an embarasment.