Naseem Hamed - ATG or Fraud

[DJ Enerate]

A ha! the concept of mastery. Elroid can hardly focus on chewing gum and walking....when he has to pay the cable bill for mom he counts steps in between chews as he walks up to the counter, so this may go over his head. This is a guy who thinks he hits the bag like Foreman and "does not need people to even hold the bag for him!"

BTW Haye is a great example for many reasons: His whole approach is based on staying away and getting off a strong punch. He has a great punch and the division is weak so he has been able. How one can see tapes and point out how flawed Haye is as a fighter, yet Elroid cannot be bothered with such things as facts.

David Haye is a decent mover on the outside and has a very good straight right delivered with speed and power. The rest of his game is garbage. He has terrible footwork when throwing punches and his finishing is as clumsy as I've ever seen in a so called elite boxer. He tries to put so much force in his straight right and hooks that his garbage footwork can't compose his balance, the total opposite of a technical marvel like Mike Tyson. He has basically no inside skills and I mean none.

I think the slick look of Haye and the fake concentrated face he pulls during fights has a lot of gullible boxing fans fooled that he is some sort of talented master boxer when in reality he is as basic as they come.

[The Old LefHook]

Someone said Naz was chinny. I dont agree with that. He was actually lucky he had a good chin.
Naz has the perfect style for a sharp shooter/counter puncher. As soon as he faced an elite one he was getting hit flush with hard shots and because he had such a freaky style he was made to look clumsy. Flopping about all over the ring and ****. Because he had such freaky athletic gifts he could throw punches at odd angles and avoid shots at odd angles vs lesser opposition. His athletic gifts made him have no real need to learn the basic fundamentals of boxing. His natural talent was the making of him but also limited him. If he had fought someone like Marquez he would have been seriously damaged. His defence was just pure reflexes. He had no technicality to his defence what so ever. Roy Jones was the same. As soon as he lost a % of his natural speed and reflexes he had no technicality to fall back on unlike Bernard Hopkins

Finally. From the looks of this post, you know more than the others who have posted so far--all of them. Sonny is whacko, as usual, Elroy is even more halfwitted, and the rest are pus*yfooting around the issue trying to make friends or peace or something. I just cannot stand it when reasonable men start talking as if unreasonable men can be made reasonable.

You just about called it on Hamed. Let me add a little more. He had good athletic talent with a big punch and no boxing skill. Guys today can make it on talent alone because the skill pool is so shallow. Salvadore Sanchez would have beaten Hamed to a pulp. "The prince" is only HOF material because the standards are laughingly low. In a real HOF he is the dishwasher. The moslem was a champion, nothing more. Barrera put him in a corner facing east and slammed his fuzzy head on the turnbuckel. Good night, nurse.

[THE MACK]

Naz - Awesome to watch but no ATG

Naz was great to watch, he had the charisma, the gift of the gab, the whole promotional package, He was an awkward fighter due to his unique style. He had freakish power for the weight he fought at, but Naz was a party guy and there were fights where he struggled with the weight cut, I remember reading he was 30 pounds over weight 4 weeks before the Barrera fight! He did not have the longevity at the top level to be considered a great or the dedication to keep him at the top.

[DJ Enerate]

Finally. From the looks of this post, you know more than the others who have posted so far--all of them. Sonny is whacko, as usual, Elroy is even more halfwitted, and the rest are pus*yfooting around the issue trying to make friends or peace or something. I just cannot stand it when reasonable men start talking as if unreasonable men can be made reasonable.

You just about called it on Hamed. Let me add a little more. He had good athletic talent with a big punch and no boxing skill. Guys today can make it on talent alone because the skill pool is so shallow. Salvadore Sanchez would have beaten Hamed to a pulp. "The prince" is only HOF material because the standards are laughingly low. In a real HOF he is the dishwasher. The moslem was a champion, nothing more. Barrera put him in a corner facing east and slammed his fuzzy head on the turnbuckel. Good night, nurse.

Thanks mate. I try my best to be unbiased and to see things for what they are. I like a little troll now and again though lol.

Naz was also brash, controversial and had spectacular ring entrances. This is also a factor in why some fans think he is greater than he actually was.
I always seem to be arguing with British boxing fans when it comes to Hamed. They seem to rank him top ten in terms of British ATG'S. Some even have him N1. This is so ignorant it actually makes me angry. He's not even the greatest British featherweight, That would be the superb Howard Winston and even he struggles to make top ten. Winston would use Naz as target practice. He would Jab that smirking clown a pizza face with his right hand tied behind his back.

[Elroy1]

Haw haw haw... And another thread falls into a nut job convention, well done!!

Keep regurgitation BS often enough fellas and it might one day come true right!!

[billeau2]

David Haye is a decent mover on the outside and has a very good straight right delivered with speed and power. The rest of his game is garbage. He has terrible footwork when throwing punches and his finishing is as clumsy as I've ever seen in a so called elite boxer. He tries to put so much force in his straight right and hooks that his garbage footwork can't compose his balance, the total opposite of a technical marvel like Mike Tyson. He has basically no inside skills and I mean none.

I think the slick look of Haye and the fake concentrated face he pulls during fights has a lot of gullible boxing fans fooled that he is some sort of talented master boxer when in reality he is as basic as they come.

Well said. And a lot of that is because David Haye has been marketed, trained and deployed to do one thing well enough in a division of mostly stationary targets, by a trainer who I think knows relatively fvk all about the sport (Adam Booth).

[billeau2]

Haw haw haw... A thread falls into rational thought, despite my ignorance, well done!!

Ill Keep regurgitation my BS often enough fellas and it might one day come true right?

Actually No Elroy it will most definitely NOT come true no matter how many times you post it...Sorry

[Scott9945]

Haw haw haw... And another thread falls into a nut job convention, well done!!

Keep regurgitation BS often enough fellas and it might one day come true right!!

It's hilarious that it never occurs to you that YOU are the oddball.

[IronDanHamza]

Neither...

[Anthony342]

Well said. And a lot of that is because David Haye has been marketed, trained and deployed to do one thing well enough in a division of mostly stationary targets, by a trainer who I think knows relatively fvk all about the sport (Adam Booth).

So what good trainers are left in the sport now. Freddy Roach? Roger Mayweather?