Hagler vs Other ATG Middleweights

[sonnyboyx2]

Because you have been proven to be a liar countless times by innumerable people. Everyone is aware of this expect possibly you. Most write that off as you being delusional enough to believe your own lies.

Only in your dreams.. LOL you just made claim about Ketchel and Langford being lies.. i am afraid ive shown you to be a fool once again. for the 1000th time LOL :blow:

[sonnyboyx2]

Balanced article.

elaborate?

[Ray Corso]

...........Vaca, hahaha seriously the guy was stopped like 25 Times, the majority of his fights were 147! He fought in Mexico and was an opponent for the majority of his career. 65W 26 L with 21 KO loses.

Here's one of sonnyboyz "great middleweights" great at getting STOPPED!

I'll head back to ignoring this little brat, he gets schooled every day here and still avoids all chances of actually learning something.

Boxing fans who hate are not true boxing fans their weak individuals who get their kicks being tough guys over the net. They've never entered a gym let alone a fight, they bash others to try and raise their opinions.

Who needs it, I can prove everything I say but my doubters have to put something up for my inconvenience.

juggy the liar, elroy the troll and sonny the BS'er all give up their membership and are banned forever when I show multiple newspaper, sport page articles, state boxing licenses etc.............that proves my association as a gym owner, boxing trainer & manager!

Then their GONE for good bye bye kids........ :blow:

Ray

[Scott9945]

...........Vaca, hahaha seriously the guy was stopped like 25 Times, the majority of his fights were 147! He fought in Mexico and was an opponent for the majority of his career. 65W 26 L with 21 KO loses.

Here's one of sonnyboyz "great middleweights" great at getting STOPPED!

I'll head back to ignoring this little brat, he gets schooled every day here and still avoids all chances of actually learning something.

Boxing fans who hate are not true boxing fans their weak individuals who get their kicks being tough guys over the net. They've never entered a gym let alone a fight, they bash others to try and raise their opinions.

Who needs it, I can prove everything I say but my doubters have to put something up for my inconvenience.

juggy the liar, elroy the troll and sonny the BS'er all give up their membership and are banned forever when I show multiple newspaper, sport page articles, state boxing licenses etc.............that proves my association as a gym owner, boxing trainer & manager!

Then their GONE for good bye bye kids........ :blow:

Ray

Get rid of them and you'll be a hero for life here. One of them is already on "vacation".

[Ray Corso]

I hate liars and cheats and people like elroid who degrade past fighters that would squash him like g****! If your a true boxing fan how do you degrade
people like Joe Frazier?
This forum has become weak because of these new members who bring the
forums legitimacy down? Why be associated with people you've learned to dislike? I've tried to express that learning form and understanding techniques can aide in formulating opinions on fighters styles. Learn the right way to evaluat skills so comparing common opponents isn't the only factor to decide skill level. After all styles make good fights and they also make for bad match ups so common opponents is a very small factor. Knowing techniques then seeing how their applied is much more benefical.
These kids have their agender here and its here to "stir the pot" not talk boxing.
This forum had good discussionjs and debates not that long ago but now its just lies and childish behavior.
Time to avoid these kids, they've ruined this forum. So many good posters have simply moved on.
Ray

[billeau2]

Not at all, i made claim i was going to attend "An Evening with Mike Tyson" which included a photograph taken with him. I said, "i would ask him if he knew Ray Corso" while getting the photograph done... unfortunately Tyson had to cancel.... Of course in your book that equates to me lying LOL..

What i find really fasinating about this forum, is how only myself debates and posts about boxing, i kinda debate with myself. By answering all the doubters. The rest of the clowns who infest this forum, do so because they are lonely. Guys like Billeau1 who is a lonely little midget. Who never talks boxing, just throws out insults with no substance to them.. if i stay off the forum for a week or so, there is no more than a couple of posts in that time. It's like "The Clowns" only turn up to doubt, ridicule and slander. I think the reason the clowns do this is they aren't boxing guys. They are gay.

But as for seeing Mike Tyson.. I seen him fight live`

Yup thats me...265 pounds of midget... I am a real David Tua cannonball, wider than I am tall. Yeah you debate all right...I asked you two questions and you quoted Mark Twain ignoring both questions, thats some hypocracy funny Sonny. But I guess that it what you consider a debate.

[joeandthebums]

elaborate?

He went about making his point by providing information to support his opinion.

I found it lacking overall but his conclusion was balanced.

[Elroy1]

For the nut bag this is a relevant thread...

For the realist the answer is STRIKINGLY simple..

Roy Jones, James Toney and Bernard Hopkins kick the living **** out of him as if he were nothing.. NOTHING!

The rest are about as equivalently, no match for Marvin Hagler whatsoever!

This type of thread appeals to only nut bags mainly and solicits the response of realists, ONLY out of pure disgust!

Fact!

[sonnyboyx2]

He went about making his point by providing information to support his opinion.

I found it lacking overall but his conclusion was balanced.

LOL... so the New York Times of the day is wrong?.. Langford's manager addmitted telling lies?.. all other reports of the bout are incorrect. But your book written over 100yrs after the event is correct? .. LOL your funny Joe.

I have a very large collection of books and magazines, which i have collected over the last 50yrs. Very few of my books are less than 20yrs old, with those being autobiographies. Like Arthur Mercante's, Floyd Patterson's, George Chuvalo's. modern boxing books are as factful and correct as believing in fairies at the bottom of your garden.

[sonnyboyx2]

...........Vaca, hahaha seriously the guy was stopped like 25 Times, the majority of his fights were 147! He fought in Mexico and was an opponent for the majority of his career. 65W 26 L with 21 KO loses.

Here's one of sonnyboyz "great middleweights" great at getting STOPPED!

I'll head back to ignoring this little brat, he gets schooled every day here and still avoids all chances of actually learning something.

Boxing fans who hate are not true boxing fans their weak individuals who get their kicks being tough guys over the net. They've never entered a gym let alone a fight, they bash others to try and raise their opinions.

Who needs it, I can prove everything I say but my doubters have to put something up for my inconvenience.

juggy the liar, elroy the troll and sonny the BS'er all give up their membership and are banned forever when I show multiple newspaper, sport page articles, state boxing licenses etc.............that proves my association as a gym owner, boxing trainer & manager!

Then their GONE for good bye bye kids........ :blow:

Ray

What is this drivel all about?... Maybe you can show the forum were the words "Great Middleweights" was used by me, to describe Vacca, Castro, Malinga or Hopkins.? ..

They are 4 fighters Roy Jones fought on his way to becoming World Middleweight Champion. Bernard Hopkins went on to become a multi-weight World Champion and fight at world level for the next 20yrs. Thus becoming a Hall of Fame fighter. This is what i made claim of.

However you (Walter Mitty) just like i predicted you would. Have decided to rubbish those 4 fighters accomplishments, in the hope of rubbishing Roy Jones 160lb career. LOL

Roy Jones fought 26 fights at middleweight, beating 4 future or former fighters. Who went on to become world champions. Jones became World Champion at the 160lb Level.

Now you claiming Jones only had a couple of fights at 160lb so cannot be considered as a 160lb champion in comparison to Marvin Hagler. is wrong!.. The reason you are trying to eliminate Roy Jones from the equation is simple. Roy Jones would have "PLAYED with Marvin Hagler" before knocking him out. You know that, i know that and so does anyone who knows boxing.

I am waiting on you making one of your announcements, maybe announcing to the forum of "How you trained Hagler".. How you drove the guy around in your car with Bob Arum and Robbie Sims. How you negotiated his world title fight against Alan Minter, with Mickey Duff and Doug Bidwell... You are a bigger liar than Ton Pepper. Your claim to boxing fame is a Boy's Club fight your son had 40yrs ago.

LOL... what a bunch of wankers