Hagler vs Other ATG Middleweights

[Ray Corso]

I have "unmistaken" video's and articles and photos and on & on.
My wife was the first or second woman to work a corner at Madison Sq. Garden. Theres all kinds of stuff I did in the 50 years in boxing.
My son is very agrivated with me right now because he told me when I asked him about going on forums to share some of my experiences that these forums had plenty of kids who just talked sh*! and looked to bash others.

I already said I'd plaster this place with info on me but if I do the jackazzes are GONE! Anyone who knows a little about boxing knows I know what I'm talking about! People who know NOTHING challenge it because their intimidated by me. Story of my life! But then again who cares about punks & cowards!
Ray

[billeau2]

I have "unmistaken" video's and articles and photos and on & on.
My wife was the first or second woman to work a corner at Madison Sq. Garden. Theres all kinds of stuff I did in the 50 years in boxing.
My son is very agrivated with me right now because he told me when I asked him about going on forums to share some of my experiences that these forums had plenty of kids who just talked sh*! and looked to bash others.

I already said I'd plaster this place with info on me but if I do the jackazzes are GONE! Anyone who knows a little about boxing knows I know what I'm talking about! People who know NOTHING challenge it because their intimidated by me. Story of my life! But then again who cares about punks & cowards!
Ray

Its easy then...get a mod, who is objective to be the viewer, then the mod can state whether the claim is substantiated and, what was viewed. This will make it so you are not harassed and the proof can be verified. Sonny respects Bats, he would be perfect for the job.

Regarding your boy... I will PM you that one! Suffice to say, one can never fully realize the extent to which your son's admonition was correct.

[Ray Corso]

Yeah well when your old & stubborn your over all light gets dimmer.


As for sonny & elroy I think that video shows enough and there was another of me running down to Mike in the nuetral corner to calm him down. I don't know what happens to this stuff I've never put a thing on the net in my life!

Same year as that vodeo was taken I was State boxing chairman, region one team coach (with Carlos Espada NYC Juan LaPorte trainer) and I think we went out to Ohio St. Fair Nationals too!

Where did THEY go?

Ray

[joeandthebums]

LOL... so the New York Times of the day is wrong?.. Langford's manager addmitted telling lies?.. all other reports of the bout are incorrect.

Did I make any of those statements?

I said I found his article lacking in evidence. Yes he cited the New York Times, which other publications did he refer to? He alludes to the fact several gave varying accounts but provides only one.

That is not substantial enough when writing a piece trying to define to the best of one's ability what actually occurred.

But your book written over 100yrs after the event is correct?

What book? Once again where did I refer to a single book as my point of reference?

I have a very large collection of books and magazines, which i have collected over the last 50yrs. Very few of my books are less than 20yrs old, with those being autobiographies. Like Arthur Mercante's, Floyd Patterson's, George Chuvalo's.

That is nice information, but what relevance does that have to this discussion?

modern boxing books are as factful and correct as believing in fairies at the bottom of your garden.

I would question the logic to that statement.

[sonnyboyx2]

I have "unmistaken" video's and articles and photos and on & on.
My wife was the first or second woman to work a corner at Madison Sq. Garden. Theres all kinds of stuff I did in the 50 years in boxing.
My son is very agrivated with me right now because he told me when I asked him about going on forums to share some of my experiences that these forums had plenty of kids who just talked sh*! and looked to bash others.

I already said I'd plaster this place with info on me but if I do the jackazzes are GONE! Anyone who knows a little about boxing knows I know what I'm talking about! People who know NOTHING challenge it because their intimidated by me. Story of my life! But then again who cares about punks & cowards!
Ray

You have chickened out.. Your a bluffer and i knew you was a bluffer. Your just some silly clown, who's knowledge of boxing is Boxrec & Youtube. I have read some of your posts from 2013 and it was the exact same back then. Guys were calling you out. Yet you never produced. you never produced because you have nothing to produce. Your a Walter Mitty character Ray. I have forgotton more about boxing than you could ever dream of knowing mate. I respect anyone who knows boxing and comes on this boxing forum to debate boxing. But you come on here to "Belittle, boast and lie" You try to make out, you are the equal of Angelo Dundee & Freddie Roach in the training department. You try to make out you are the equal of Mike Tyson in your knowledge of the sports history. You lie and claim you don't name call, slander or ridicule other posters. Yet you are top of the list on that score. You are a fraud Ray Corso. In fact i don't believe that is your real handle. Your a Walter Mitty character with a head full of broken toys. You sad, pathetic, lonely little wanker.

[Ray Corso]

The video is right there sonnyboy, no time to cry now!

We'll get a Mod to check it out and then we'll say ......goodbye to you!

What happen to keeping your word like a man?
You asked for the Junior Olympic bout with Teddy & Me and you GOT IT!

Own up and start becoming a man sonny.

Ray

[sonnyboyx2]

Did I make any of those statements?

I said I found his article lacking in evidence. Yes he cited the New York Times, which other publications did he refer to? He alludes to the fact several gave varying accounts but provides only one.

That is not substantial enough when writing a piece trying to define to the best of one's ability what actually occurred.



What book? Once again where did I refer to a single book as my point of reference?




That is nice information, but what relevance does that have to this discussion?



I would question the logic to that statement.

Did you read the comments at the foot of the article?

[Ray Corso]

........"You claimed you was at the Junior Olympics, with Teddy Atlas and Tyson... show proof".....................

There it is sonnyboy, you asked for it you got it. Everyone can see it! Even elroid.
Ray


Mike Tyson vs Joe Cortez 1981 Junior Olympics

[sonnyboyx2]

The video is right there sonnyboy, no time to cry now!

We'll get a Mod to check it out and then we'll say ......goodbye to you!

What happen to keeping your word like a man?
You asked for the Junior Olympic bout with Teddy & Me and you GOT IT!

Own up and start becoming a man sonny.

Ray

LOL your a howler... :blow:
i just checked the video you claimed you was on... nothing!
it's all in your vivid imagination... Bye Bye Ray Corso, i accepted your challenge and you have not provided the evidence. you have not provided the evidence asked of you, which was agreed by you.
You claimed you was going to provide documents, photographs, clippings, videos, trainers licenses etc etc..You have come up with nothing, you are trying to now bluff that you are someone in a fight video, with a ridiculous, fanciful, split-second imagery. It sums you up correctly. Your a myth, a fraud, go away you foolish ****ing idiot.

[Elroy1]

You have chickened out.. Your a bluffer and i knew you was a bluffer. Your just some silly clown, who's knowledge of boxing is Boxrec & Youtube. I have read some of your posts from 2013 and it was the exact same back then. Guys were calling you out. Yet you never produced. you never produced because you have nothing to produce. Your a Walter Mitty character Ray. I have forgotton more about boxing than you could ever dream of knowing mate. I respect anyone who knows boxing and comes on this boxing forum to debate boxing. But you come on here to "Belittle, boast and lie" You try to make out, you are the equal of Angelo Dundee & Freddie Roach in the training department. You try to make out you are the equal of Mike Tyson in your knowledge of the sports history. You lie and claim you don't name call, slander or ridicule other posters. Yet you are top of the list on that score. You are a fraud Ray Corso. In fact i don't believe that is your real handle. Your a Walter Mitty character with a head full of broken toys. You sad, pathetic, lonely little wanker.

Whatever any modernist or nut bag poster has said negative about you Sonny, you deserve credit for this. I've never seen anybody totally crush "Ray" like this, the best yet..

I only highlighted the parts about YouTube and BoxRec.... These 2 sources completely EXPOSE every idea about boxing he has ever had, not support them..

I'm afraid Ray's only source of knowledge that is compatible with what he says can come only from that most unreliable place... Word of mouth, like "the Gospel's" LOL