How many fighters of the last 15-20 years can be considered ATG's/legends

[BoxingfanJimbob]

Lennox Lewis.

I also think Wlad will be highly regarded when he retires

[boxinghead530]

In the last 15-20 years we have Marquez, Hopkins, De la Hoya, Trinidad, Roy Jones, Pacquiao, Mayweather, Toney, Lewis, Holyfield, Barerra, Morales, V. Klitschko are all legends and ATGs and a fews others I cant think of right now.

[Elroy1]

In what way is Vitali ever an ATG?

Easy..

- He has among the best resume's of any boxer
- He has never non-controversially lost a fight
- He has never lost more than 2 rounds in any fight
- He has never even been knocked down let alone out
- He has fought the heftiest opposition on record (along with brother)
- He has fought the highest quality opposition by record (along with brother and Lennox)
- He beat the living crap out of every opponent he ever faced
- He claims shared responsibility for uprooting the flag of HW boxing and replanting it on the opposite side of the world after 150 years and bringing an entire nation of 300m ppl to it's knees.
- Barely ever gets hit with an almost inpenetrable defence
- Among the highest KOratio of any boxer

^^^ Not only is Vitali an ATG, but there should actually be a new class for even higher elitism for guys like that. Nothing before has ever achieved as much.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Easy..

- He has among the best resume's of any boxer
- He has never non-controversially lost a fight
- He has never lost more than 2 rounds in any fight
- He has never even been knocked down let alone out
- He has fought the heftiest opposition on record (along with brother)
- He has fought the highest quality opposition by record (along with brother and Lennox)
- He beat the living crap out of every opponent he ever faced
- He claims shared responsibility for uprooting the flag of HW boxing and replanting it on the opposite side of the world after 150 years and bringing an entire nation of 300m ppl to it's knees.
- Barely ever gets hit with an almost inpenetrable defence
- Among the highest KOratio of any boxer

^^^ Not only is Vitali an ATG, but there should actually be a new class for even higher elitism for guys like that. Nothing before has ever achieved as much.

I agree, Vitali is the much more entertaining of the two brothers and to me the more skilled. He actually fights unlike Wlad who probably holds a record for most clinches in 1 fight.

[Scott9945]

Easy..

- He has among the best resume's of any boxer
- He has never non-controversially lost a fight
- He has never lost more than 2 rounds in any fight
- He has never even been knocked down let alone out
- He has fought the heftiest opposition on record (along with brother)
- He has fought the highest quality opposition by record (along with brother and Lennox)
- He beat the living crap out of every opponent he ever faced
- He claims shared responsibility for uprooting the flag of HW boxing and replanting it on the opposite side of the world after 150 years and bringing an entire nation of 300m ppl to it's knees.
- Barely ever gets hit with an almost inpenetrable defence
- Among the highest KOratio of any boxer

^^^ Not only is Vitali an ATG, but there should actually be a new class for even higher elitism for guys like that. Nothing before has ever achieved as much.

Other than Lennox Lewis, name one boxer he fought who will get into the HOF? Or even close to it.

The name of the game is quality, not quantity. And padded records don't mean ****.

[Anthony342]

Lennox Lewis I add to my list too, if I haven't already.

[billeau2]

The quips about Klitschko's both not being ATGs are some of the most outrageous comments to ever come out of the OTNB community, as both are guaranteed ATG status beyond any doubt and everybody knows it. For instance anybody with a family, wife, kids to feed and elderly parents to look after and a house could comfortably bet all of it and the rest of their entire savings and assets on it and sleep restfully assured that the ATG status is going to be granted.

As for Bernard Hopkins the guy has a win over friggin Roy Jones, a narrow defeat to Calzaghe and wins over Tarver, DeLa Hoya, Pascal, Wright among others. To claim him not a ATG worthy is simply ****ing ludicrous!

Even if it IS the history section, how the hell can guys get away with such idiocy!

Are you for real!!!? he Beat Jones? at the point where he beat Jones anyone could beat Jones...not the same Jones!!! And I thought I was too ******* with jones thiinking when tarver beat him he still had his moxy!!

Vitalie lost to lewis when he stepped up. Thats just reality junior...you know that world that happens after you leave the basement? Vitalie was talented and solid. If he was great he would have AT LEAST stopped Lewis...not beat him but stopped him.

lets not fret....karma's a b1tch and Holy gave some to Lewis from the same spoon Vitalie drank from. Holy not known to be one of the more cerebral fighters actually was suprisingly on regarding his first fight with Lewis.
Lewis complained bitterly about the decision (rightfly so) and Holy said..."Instead of complaining when you had the chance you should have knocked me out, went for it, removed all doubt." Kinda makes sense in a crude sort of way don't it?

Vitalie had a chance to step up...he even knew he was cut against Lewis...that was the time to say fvk it..and go for it...risk it. You say all kinds of things about Ali but when Ali was given the chance he stopped Liston and foreman, as an underdog, thats ATG. I know you don't like to hear that, but think about it.

Lets see what Fury does....will he be willing to risk getting put on his arse to really try to go after Vlad? See there are many good fighters...greatness? another story really.

[LacedUp]

Easy..

- He has among the best resume's of any boxer - Who did he beat?
- He has never non-controversially lost a fight - But who did he beat?
- He has never lost more than 2 rounds in any fight - Who did he fight?
- He has never even been knocked down let alone out - He was knocked down vs Sanders. Also, who has he fought?
- He has fought the heftiest opposition on record (along with brother) - Like who?
- He has fought the highest quality opposition by record (along with brother and Lennox) - Like who?
- He beat the living crap out of every opponent he ever faced - That's obviously not true, also, who did he fight?
- He claims shared responsibility for uprooting the flag of HW boxing and replanting it on the opposite side of the world after 150 years and bringing an entire nation of 300m ppl to it's knees. wtf did i just read
- Barely ever gets hit with an almost inpenetrable defence - But who did he fight?
- Among the highest KOratio of any boxer - But who did he fight?

^^^ Not only is Vitali an ATG, but there should actually be a new class for even higher elitism for guys like that. Nothing before has ever achieved as much.

Vitali Klitschko has 6 wins over top 10 opponents in 50 fights or whatever. Additionally, he has never beaten a #1 contender.

He is NOT an ATG.

[Elroy1]

Other than Lennox Lewis, name one boxer he fought who will get into the HOF? Or even close to it.

The name of the game is quality, not quantity. And padded records don't mean ****.

False.

Vitali's resume is top 3 or 4 all time.

And to address the question of who else would be a hofer well that is simply a misnomer.

The dominance of Vitali was so great that it didn't allow other boxers to shine who otherwise would have.

The opposite is true, in an era where there are many atg and hofers, NOBODY was really that great because if they were, they wouldnt have allowed others.

This well established concept is known as the "super-predator" (of which Vitali is one of the only examples).

Of course everybody knows this, this is nothing new, it's blatantly obvious!

[LacedUp]

False.

Vitali's resume is top 3 or 4 all time.

And to address the question of who else would be a hofer well that is simply a misnomer.

The dominance of Vitali was so great that it didn't allow other boxers to shine who otherwise would have.

The opposite is true, in an era where there are many atg and hofers, NOBODY was really that great because if they were, they wouldnt have allowed others.

This well established concept is known as the "super-predator" (of which Vitali is one of the only examples).

Of course everybody knows this, this is nothing new, it's blatantly obvious!

You say that, but don't mention any names.

You know a person is full of it when they make statements without breaking down why.