Are all modern fighters bigger?

[juggernaut666]

That's because fighters used to fight six times a year instead of the 2-3 they do now. When you fight infrequently you need longer training camps. This is just simple logic. How many training camps do you think Harry Greb or Sam Langford had?

Fighters today have longer training camps because there is more money on the line and with limited cable/ppv networking to fit in not because they are fighting less...they are not at the leisure of walking outside and taking a fight...fighters today are more prepared for one another with video tech and all around access to there opponent.Basically a pro boxers job is being a pro boxer...back in the day they juggled 2/3 jobs while fighting.Theres more at stake today than yesteryear where you could lose fights and still get a title shot.A fighter today has to be as close to 100% as possible for a fight that is the reason for the longer training camps,its not the I lost ,i''ll be back next week old school era anymore. One loss today equals about 10 from what it used to be,its way more professionally handled now,you just don't get thrown in a fight with a week notice ..etc...etc...

[Scott9945]

Fighters today have longer training camps because there is more money on the line and with limited cable/ppv networking to fit in not because they are fighting less...they are not at the leisure of walking outside and taking a fight...fighters today are more prepared for one another with video tech and all around access to there opponent.Basically a pro boxers job is being a pro boxer...back in the day they juggled 2/3 jobs while fighting.Theres more at stake today than yesteryear where you could lose fights and still get a title shot.A fighter today has to be as close to 100% as possible for a fight that is the reason for the longer training camps,its not the I lost ,i''ll be back next week old school era anymore. One loss today equals about 10 from what it used to be,its way more professionally handled now,you just don't get thrown in a fight with a week notice ..etc...etc...

The more often you fight, the less you need to train. That is a plain and simple truth.

[Elroy1]

I would say Norton was more stiff but technically better on offense than Arreola. Foreman would be to wide with the punches he did have better body punches than Arreola and jab,Frazier wasn't a technical anything other than a solid left hook, and ali wasn't a technical fighter outside of a really good straight right,he was an athletic one.


All in all I would say Arreola has better punches technically ,other than sloppy body shots, I would take Norton as the overall better technical fighter. Arreola to me is a small version of 90's foreman. Jimmy young/Holmes/Norton I would say were technically better.



I do think Arreola won his last fight. I think if you look at the punches being thrown by him they are technical, hes slow and off balance sometimes but when he sets up shots with footwork hes pretty good, I wouldn't rate him as a world beater in this era. Where the size advantage would have helped him in other eras in this one not really hes not the biggest and hes not the most skilled either. Fghting Arreola you get a sloppy and Technical; fighter all in one night,i think this makes him awkward to fight.

Norton, ok, maybe your right there- but he still shares many similarities with Seth Mitchell. Norton was a natural athlete but not a natural boxer.

Arreola is kind of the opposite, he hates athletics but is a natural boxer.

While Norton was doing track and field all his younger years, Arreola was refining his craft.

Ali was more athletic than Arreola for most of his career, that's a given. Ali did always have good stamina.

As for Young, of course a guy like that is technicanlly better, but that's why I worded it the way I did because Young was never a HW at all, making it all the more disgraceful that Foreman and Ali lost to him!

[Elroy1]

The more often you fight, the less you need to train. That is a plain and simple truth.

Yesterday's fighters fought more often because the competition was so limited.


The correct statement goes...

The higher class of opposition you face, the more preparation you need between fights!

Todays boxers still do fight very regularly like they used to in the old days...

Except today that occurs at the very start of their careers when the level of opposition is comparable to championship level back in the day.

And what we TODAY call championship level boxing, never existed back in the day.

Those are the facts, we didn't make them!

Don't shoot the messengers!

[Scott9945]

Yesterday's fighters fought more often because the competition was so limited.


The correct statement goes...

The higher class of opposition you face, the more preparation you need between fights!

Todays boxers still do fight very regularly like they used to in the old days...

Except today that occurs at the very start of their careers when the level of opposition is comparable to championship level back in the day.

And what we TODAY call championship level boxing, never existed back in the day.

Those are the facts, we didn't make them!

Don't shoot the messengers!

You are insane.

[juggernaut666]

The more often you fight, the less you need to train. That is a plain and simple truth.

That doesnt really make sense ,but as usual whatever you WISH to believe.

[juggernaut666]

Norton, ok, maybe your right there- but he still shares many similarities with Seth Mitchell. Norton was a natural athlete but not a natural boxer.

Arreola is kind of the opposite, he hates athletics but is a natural boxer.

While Norton was doing track and field all his younger years, Arreola was refining his craft.

Ali was more athletic than Arreola for most of his career, that's a given. Ali did always have good stamina.

As for Young, of course a guy like that is technicanlly better, but that's why I worded it the way I did because Young was never a HW at all, making it all the more disgraceful that Foreman and Ali lost to him!

Im not to familiar with Seth Mitchell. Movers would have then always giving Foreman trouble more than big punchers who were not elusive. Arreloa was actually a basketball player and football player himself, he was very athletic,some just cant get past his body type and say he is out of shape,total nonsense.

[Scott9945]

That doesnt really make sense ,but as usual whatever you WISH to believe.

Try asking legitimate boxing people what makes sense. You WISH to believe that Lionel Butler and Alex Leapai were anything better than second rate heavyweights, so...

[Elroy1]

Im not to familiar with Seth Mitchell. Movers would have then always giving Foreman trouble more than big punchers who were not elusive. Arreloa was actually a basketball player and football player himself, he was very athletic,some just cant get past his body type and say he is out of shape,total nonsense.

The similarity between Mitchell, a former footballer turned boxer and Norton is that they were both exceptional athletes but who turned to boxing only late.

I'm not especially singing athletic praises of Arreloa or anything like that, suffice to say he has been boxing since 7 years old and is much more athletic than given credit for- certainly more so than any other guy of similar body type back in th day. In fact I can't think of a single 240lber prior t the 80's who was as athletic. DEFINITELY not the aformentioned Buster MAthis! LOL

A curious thing happens to some of these guys here.. At first they SLAM the hulking bodybuilder type of body which blows any of their favourites out the water in terms of physique and champion the claim that body type doesn't matter in boxing... But THEN when it suits them they want to claim the opposite and defend the athletic boxers of their day and slam any aesthetically unpleasing boxer of today. It's a straight out paradox that only the Doc and MArty McFly could solve LOL

[Elroy1]

Try asking legitimate boxing people what makes sense. You WISH to believe that Lionel Butler and Alex Leapai were anything better than second rate heavyweights, so...

Nobody hiding in this section has ever boxed.. We know that