How fast was Sugar Ray Robinson in 1950? Find out here.

[Scott9945]

Hmmm

Something is very familiar about all this!!

Do you two guys recycle the same lines to all of your adversary's?

You both sound like absolute jerks and make hardly any sense...

Your opinions fly right in the face of anything remotely possible.. AND you support bums!!!

Robinson is very special in that he compiled the most extensive and relatively good quality record of all time. That is a real solid achievement.

But in absolute terms, Robinson is slow and defensively irresponsible. And nothing you can say can dispute that.

Thankfully you haven't even tried, you'se have merely resulted to the same thing you'se always do when cornered with irrefutable facts... You degrade and insult.

This is why I ignore most of the crap you post. Until he was in his late 30's, Robinson was faster than all of his opponents. So that makes him slow? That's almost as lame as you calling Joe Frazier "feather fisted". Kind of like a low class tabloid newspaper.

[Ray Corso]

elroid says..........."But in absolute terms, Robinson is slow"


Sugar is the most "complete" boxer of all time. The combinations of speed with power remain unmatched. The FACT that elroid doesn't know this once again proves that he knows NOTHING! just stiring the pot....

Ray

[Elroy1]

elroid says..........."But in absolute terms, Robinson is slow"


Sugar is the most "complete" boxer of all time. The combinations of speed with power remain unmatched. The FACT that elroid doesn't know this once again proves that he knows NOTHING! just stiring the pot....

Ray

OH, right... Yeah, sure...

Sugar is the most COMPLETE boxer of all time?

Let me tell you and you "friends" here an OPEN secret..

The only thing "complete" about Ray Robinson was his complete lack of defence. Old chicken wing! LOL

The 1950's are over!

Wake up Ray!

It is statements like this which are total proof that you have never once had anything to do with boxing.

[Ray Corso]

....."But in absolute terms, Robinson is slow".....
......"never once had anything to do with boxing".


More wisdom from the nerd who knows NOTHING about boxing!
One of the forums ATG "pot stirers" and trolls , ultimate

night lil' elroid and clean your room for your mommy!

Ray

[billeau2]

....."But in absolute terms, Robinson is slow".....
......"never once had anything to do with boxing".


More wisdom from the nerd who knows NOTHING about boxing!
One of the forums ATG "pot stirers" and trolls , ultimate

night lil' elroid and clean your room for your mommy!

Ray

Easy on my misses!!

When Elroy was born me misses says to the doc "oh what a treasure." the doc says "yeah lets bury it." But ya know when we had Elroy, me misses was a trophy wife...its true! I won her in a bowling alley. Elroy was just an ugly kid...he was looking out the window and the cops wanted to arrest me for mooning and his acne? the kids used to play connect the dots on his face.

[McGoorty]

OH, right... Yeah, sure...

Sugar is the most COMPLETE boxer of all time?

Let me tell you and you "friends" here an OPEN secret..

The only thing "complete" about Ray Robinson was his complete lack of defence. Old chicken wing! LOL

The 1950's are over!

Wake up Ray!

It is statements like this which are total proof that you have never once had anything to do with boxing.

Give up son, you are making a complete fool of yourself

[joeandthebums]

He should have lost to Henry brimm but received a draw

The only report I have detailing the contest does lean towards Brimm, by a single round - but three men judged the contest, and the combination of their cards brought about the conclusion of a draw.

Quoting yourself;

you have not seen the man live in the ring so all you go on is what you read

With the lack of evidence I cannot see how we can definitive state Robinson should of lost to Henry Brimm.

Tommy bell dropped him and should have at least got a draw

I have never heard an argument for Robinson-Bell II to have be called a draw.

Interested in your reasoning.

he lost to joey maxim and he was only 31,, they say exhaustion well both fighter had to deal with the heat that night not just ray Robinson

Robinson did lose to Maxim. I do not feel that you can disregard the heat as a contributing factor however.

You can argue Robinson failed to adjust his game-plan and suffered for it, but Maxim does not come out of that contest with any prestige given his performance.

[Elroy1]

Give up son, you are making a complete fool of yourself

I don't know who you are but the moment anybody unsure ACTUALLY CHECKS it out for themselves they will SEE which one of us is making a fool of themselves.

Robinson was wide open, nobody can dispute that!

All the nutbags have is a hypothesis that he was fast when he was younger. Unfortunately for them, this world largely exists outside of testable evidence from lack of film.

Your failing gentleman!

Your lack of recourse to reality leaves you as wide open as Robinson to be whacked around 10 at a time by just a single poster armed with nothing more than common sense and logic.

So I'll say it again...

Wake up nut bag!

Those times are gone!

[The plunger man]

The only report I have detailing the contest does lean towards Brimm, by a single round - but three men judged the contest, and the combination of their cards brought about the conclusion of a draw.

Quoting yourself;



With the lack of evidence I cannot see how we can definitive state Robinson should of lost to Henry Brimm.



I have never heard an argument for Robinson-Bell II to have be called a draw.

Interested in your reasoning.




Robinson did lose to Maxim. I do not feel that you can disregard the heat as a contributing factor however.

You can argue Robinson failed to adjust his game-plan and suffered for it, but Maxim does not come out of that contest with any prestige given his performance.

The conversation was regarding robinson losing or drawing to fighters he shouldn't have...Henry brimm according to my dads ring enclyopeadia ..it states that the crowd booed the decision as it could have gone his way....Henry brimm lost 18 out of 48 contest and 4 of those were also draws....so stating what I said its correct....in regards to Tommy bell robinson had a terrible time the first 5 rounds against bell and was also dropped for a count , bell also won the 10,13, and 14th and based on that alone robinson was lucky to get the win, and again based on robsinson losing to lesser fights or struggling I am correct ...Tommy bell lost 29 contests out of 85 with also 3 losses so again he was not the best of fighters...joey maxim and Ray robinson were both in the ring so both had to cope with the heat and humidity....even if robinson was moving away then maxim was moving forward ...so in my eyes it's an even playing field and to add to that when sugar ray leonard faced Thomas hearns at ceasars palace in 81 it was 110 degrees under the lights so it was actually more extreme.....in the past I have clearly stated Ray robinson is probably the greatest fighter in history for his achievements but I'm not under the same view that he could beat every welter weight or middlweight and I believe sugar ray leonard Thomas hearns or marvin hagler could have held there own with ray robinson or even more , SRR had a lot of faults , wild swinging, bad defence , took a lot of punches and not accurate and I just do not accept just by watching him that he was a some kind of superman over every other all time great fighter in history..evolution has never made a person who is head and shoulders above everybody else.....I beleve boxing peaked about 25 to 30 years ago and it's not on the level as it was in the 1980 and 1990s .....there are loads of fights where robsinson under performed ..I will never take anything away from him and he certainly was a brilliant fighter but it's differnt eras and out of respect modern days boxers say robinson was the greatest because of what he did in his career or what he achieved and they would never say anything derogatory as its considered sacraligious .....its my opinion and I just don't follow the old school

[billeau2]

I don't know who you are but the moment anybody unsure ACTUALLY CHECKS it out for themselves they will SEE which one of us is making a fool of themselves.

Robinson was wide open, nobody can dispute that!

All the nutbags have is a hypothesis that he was fast when he was younger. Unfortunately for them, this world largely exists outside of testable evidence from lack of film.

Your failing gentleman!

Your lack of recourse to reality leaves you as wide open as Robinson to be whacked around 10 at a time by just a single poster armed with nothing more than common sense and logic.

So I'll say it again...

Wake up nut bag!

Those times are gone!

You make vapid generalizations...you must like the sound of your own voice. You are incapable of seriously analyzing technique. Some of us, myself included are great fans of modern trainers as well as those in the past....we just analyze at the technical level...for example, I happen to be a big fan of Barry Robinson, a guy who is an innovator and deals primarily with technical situations being deconstructed.

Robinson was able, when the situation called for it, to let his hands go, other times he fought cautiously... You don't see this because your a jerk. There are times when a fighter should fight more aggresively and use punching power, Robinson had that skill set, as well as many others. What people tend to admire, and what history confirms is that this man had a most impressive amount of things he could do in the ring. The fact that he won so much shows he knew when to use what skill sets. Watch him set up hiis punches, and how fast he sets, uses a combo, a feint, then watch a fighter like Ward...a very superb technical fighter. Ward looks like he is setting things up in SLO MOTION.

But you don't know what to look for and like the typical flat earther....because you can't see it with your eyes you don't believe it. Your a bore, everyone knows the BS you peddle. Up your game, look carefully at things you may learn something. You used to be amusing but your just...well like Sonny, the same old agenda, with no information added.