Duran vs McCallum 154

[lazy]

On a good night Duran had a good chance of pulling this off.

[Suckmedry]

Jeez this would be a high level technical fight. With plenty of exchanging too. My kind of fight to a tee.

[Scott9945]

Too big? Maybe... To skilled?! Are you out of your mind? Duran was one of the most skilful fighters of all time. In reply to the OP it depends whether Duran trained hard or not, if it was the davey Moore Duran, Duran would win.

What I'm saying is that Duran can beat some top junior middles, just not one as skilled as McCallum. Just like Benitez and Hearns were too skilled for him at that weight. If they were the same size it might be a different story.

[joseph5620]

Too big? Maybe... To skilled?! Are you out of your mind? Duran was one of the most skilful fighters of all time. In reply to the OP it depends whether Duran trained hard or not, if it was the davey Moore Duran, Duran would win.

I get tired of seeing the "not training" excuse for all of Duran's poor performances. If he was that lackadaisical about training he probably didn't train for a lot of his good performances either.


Davey Moore was not McCallum by a long shot which is probably why Duran didn't look the same way against Benitez or Hearns.

[billeau2]

There are some guys who habitually could fight well going up the ladder. Any great fighter will carry some skills up the ladder. But the origin of the phrase "a skilled big man beats a skilled smaller man" speaks to this very situation.

This match up is not without some intrigue though, Mccallum's primary weapon is not the jab, or reach, so naturally the question arises, how does Mccallum get to Duran with those body shots? its not like Duran could not be evasive when he wanted to be, and for that matter its not like Duran was lacking in his performance against Hearns, a jab combined with reach is hard to overcome...Against a man with one of the best jabs, well....

In the end Mccallum's beard makes it hard to see a way for Roberto, hard but not impossible, because the body is harder to hit than the head in many ways and Mccallum has to find a way to Duran's body, unlike having a jab to sharp shoot at a distance.

Close fight and both guys take a lot of shots to give shots. i am not convinced that a guy as skilled as Duran could not take the blue evasive pill and give Mccallum problems with his speed. Duran was no Jones but had fast explosive hands.

Mccallum is a master technician. I put him in a category similar to james Toney in that both guys had the technical brilliance to be great, could fight up the ladder as well but could be accessed through the purity of speed and mobility.

[The Old LefHook]

There are some guys who habitually could fight well going up the ladder. Any great fighter will carry some skills up the ladder. But the origin of the phrase "a skilled big man beats a skilled smaller man" speaks to this very situation.

This match up is not without some intrigue though, Mccallum's primary weapon is not the jab, or reach, so naturally the question arises, how does Mccallum get to Duran with those body shots? its not like Duran could not be evasive when he wanted to be, and for that matter its not like Duran was lacking in his performance against Hearns, a jab combined with reach is hard to overcome...Against a man with one of the best jabs, well....

In the end Mccallum's beard makes it hard to see a way for Roberto, hard but not impossible, because the body is harder to hit than the head in many ways and Mccallum has to find a way to Duran's body, unlike having a jab to sharp shoot at a distance.

Close fight and both guys take a lot of shots to give shots. i am not convinced that a guy as skilled as Duran could not take the blue evasive pill and give Mccallum problems with his speed. Duran was no Jones but had fast explosive hands.

Mccallum is a master technician. I put him in a category similar to james Toney in that both guys had the technical brilliance to be great, could fight up the ladder as well but could be accessed through the purity of speed and mobility.

The snatcher was pretty darned slow. Duran would have a big speed advantage.

[ironalex]

I get tired of seeing the "not training" excuse for all of Duran's poor performances. If he was that lackadaisical about training he probably didn't train for a lot of his good performances either.


Davey Moore was not McCallum by a long shot which is probably why Duran didn't look the same way against Benitez or Hearns.

Why are you tired of that excuse? Anyone with two working eyes can see how different he looks when he is prepared and in party animal mode. Do u really think Kirkland Laing would beat a fully prepared in camp Duran? Lol davey Moore wasn't I agree but that Duran would have have beaten mccalum.

[rightsideup]

I get tired of seeing the "not training" excuse for all of Duran's poor performances. If he was that lackadaisical about training he probably didn't train for a lot of his good performances either.


Davey Moore was not McCallum by a long shot which is probably why Duran didn't look the same way against Benitez or Hearns.

I know it may sound frustrating to hear this but duran could be his own worst enemy in regards to consistent performance and it cost him dearly in some fights like leonard 2,hearns,laing and dejeus 1 and then age started to creep in as well

[billeau2]

The snatcher was pretty darned slow. Duran would have a big speed advantage.

Exactly. Relatively speaking, Mccallum to Duran this is very true.

[Scott9945]

Exactly. Relatively speaking, Mccallum to Duran this is very true.

I don't see that big of a speed advantage, and in every other factor Duran is clearly 2nd. He'd be giving up 4 inches in height and 8 inches in reach to a naturally much bigger man. You can't compare the skill set of Davey Moore or Iran Barkley to McCallum.

Duran never beat anyone over welterweight nearly as good as McCallum and I think he gets beaten rather handily.