Joe Louis in the early 70's and 90's..

[billeau2]

Louis had skills that transcend any era. One constant mistake people make is to call his deliberate, methodical method "plodding." There is film of young Louis that shows he had quick feet. The methodical way he stalked an opponent was designed for an era when 15 rounds was the norm for a championship fight, which carried on through the seventies, and his so called "plodding" was efficiency.

If one wants to get an idea of Louis in the seventies, one can see that some of the punchers...guys like Shavers, Norton to a degree, Foreman, Lyle were able...Louis had more weapons, was more efficient than any of these men. Louis was good enough defemsively to fight in an era with smaller gloves and not be chin checked into oblivion. Even in his loss to Schmelling it was not his chin.

Jimmy Young might well have been Louis' Billy Conn in this era.... Young was mobile, had good punch resistance and could upset the apple cart with his unorthodox tactics.

I won'tnyet comment on after the seventies suffice to say one has to look fighter by bfighter.

[Mintcar923]

I'd say Louis was more of a puncher boxer than boxer puncher a la Tyson.. Joe had a better jab than Mike but the latter had the better chin.. I don't believe the guys from the later eras would crush Joe with such ease.. You gotta remember if Louis were fighting in the modern era his training would have been much better.. It would have been a far improved version of the one from the 40's.. All he would have to worry about would be not to get hit with the big shots from Tyson, Lewis, and Foreman.. And, his defense was pretty solid when he was on his A game..

[butterfly1964]

He would have been a light middle weight
Elroy

Ok, so Joe Louis weighed 154lbs? More like 200-205.

[butterfly1964]

Joe Louis would nearly dominate both eras.

Against Ali it could go either way, since it wouldn't be prime Ali but I might favor Ali here. Ali by MD over 15 rounds.

Against Foreman Louis would just have to box around him and avoid his power shots and counterpunch. George would tire in the later rounds. Louis by late TKO in the 12th round.

Frazier was a slow starter, and Louis would work that to his advantage. Frazier would be susceptible to Louis' smashing uppercuts a la Godoy. Louis by KO in round 7.

Norton would be similar, only worse. Louis knocks him out in three rounds.

Against 90s Tyson Louis would exploit his lack of head movement and subpar stamina. Tyson would be stopped in the 8th round.

If Holyfield tries to box Louis, Louis would crowd him to the ropes and beat him to the punch. Louis would win a UD over 15 rounds. If Holyfield tries to slug with Joe a la Rid**** Bowe, he gets KO'd by the 12th round.

Lewis' chin and stamina would not be able to stand up to Louis' workrate and punching power. Louis wins by KO in the 9th round.

Bowe would get stopped late. Louis is faster, more powerful and more skilled. Louis KO in 13 rounds.

[Joeyzagz]

He wouldve been champion for a decade just as he was in the 30s-40s. he would be so dominant and respected that once Ali came along, Joe probably would eek out a gift UD in the first match and KO Cassius in the rematch just as he did Jersey.

Joe Louis couldve been champ in any era.

[Mintcar923]

He wouldve been champion for a decade just as he was in the 30s-40s. he would be so dominant and respected that once Ali came along, Joe probably would eek out a gift UD in the first match and KO Cassius in the rematch just as he did Jersey.

Joe Louis couldve been champ in any era.

I think the only guys he would have to worry about would be Ali, Holmes, Tyson, and Foreman.. In all honesty I just can't see Joe beating Holmes and Ali.. But, the Tyson and Foreman bouts would be pick ems..

[BKM-2010]

See I think Joe Louis would lose to a lot of the greats or I'd atleast favor them over him in a matchup. It doesn't take away from his greatness as that is judged by his accomplishments and skills in his own time.

[billeau2]

Ok, so Joe Louis weighed 154lbs? More like 200-205.

I was teasing one of our resident village idiots.

[Joeyzagz]

I think the only guys he would have to worry about would be Ali, Holmes, Tyson, and Foreman.. In all honesty I just can't see Joe beating Holmes and Ali.. But, the Tyson and Foreman bouts would be pick ems..

Joe Louis's greatest attributes were patience and economy of movement. You were in danger of getting clocked c in all 15 rounds, and Joe had the discipline to wait as long as it took.

He also knew how to finish, so if he floors ALi once like Frazier or Cooper did, Ali aint makin it out of the round. Joe always finished hurt guys. The only guy whos beating Louis is a fleeting boxer who is just in there to make guys miss. Jimmy Young comes to mind.

[Mintcar923]

Joe Louis's greatest attributes were patience and economy of movement. You were in danger of getting clocked c in all 15 rounds, and Joe had the discipline to wait as long as it took.

He also knew how to finish, so if he floors ALi once like Frazier or Cooper did, Ali aint makin it out of the round. Joe always finished hurt guys. The only guy whos beating Louis is a fleeting boxer who is just in there to make guys miss. Jimmy Young comes to mind.

So prime Ali is not a fleeting boxer who is in there to make guys miss? And, Jimmy Young is superior?? And, if Ali survived the two hardest punchers ever(Foreman and Shavers) how would Joe Louis be able to take him out?! I guess its possible but highly unlikely..