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  • Heckler
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    #21
    Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00
    imo James Buster Douglas won it by a fluke but i'm sure there's worse ex-champs
    It wasn't a fluke, he fought the perfect match and exposed Tysons flaws. There is no exscuse, regardless of circumstance the performance douglas put on would always trouble Tyson because it took advantage of flaws that always existed.

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    • Heckler
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      #22
      Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00
      Jack Johnson isn't the worst but he may very well be one of the worst, he fought in a weak time, he had weight advantage height advantage and still got knocked down by middleweights

      he fought bums and no names

      i think that should count as horrible
      LOL!. Jack Johnson is without a doubt one of the most skilled HW boxers of all time. His weight and Height advantage are irrevant, its his performance that matters. Thats like saying, lets discredit Marciano because he was born with punching power. He fought in a weak time, and got knocked down by smaller fighters, he fought bums and no names - geez another fighter shares these cirucmstances... Oh thats right ROCKY MARCIANO - Knocked down by Archie Moore, best fighter he ever fought was Ezzard Charles who was aging and a natural light heavyweight. Rocky Marciano reigned in one of the weakest eras ever and fought alot of bums and no names... how you could go on to say that Jack Johnson should be rated as one of the worse HW's ever is beyond me.

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      • Southpaw Stinger
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        #23
        Johnson is probably one of the most overrated of all time. Some older generation black people regard him as the greatest of all time which is frankly pathetic.

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        • butterfly1964
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          #24
          Originally posted by Heckler
          LOL!. Jack Johnson is without a doubt one of the most skilled HW boxers of all time. His weight and Height advantage are irrevant, its his performance that matters. Thats like saying, lets discredit Marciano because he was born with punching power. He fought in a weak time, and got knocked down by smaller fighters, he fought bums and no names - geez another fighter shares these cirucmstances... Oh thats right ROCKY MARCIANO - Knocked down by Archie Moore, best fighter he ever fought was Ezzard Charles who was aging and a natural light heavyweight. Rocky Marciano reigned in one of the weakest eras ever and fought alot of bums and no names... how you could go on to say that Jack Johnson should be rated as one of the worse HW's ever is beyond me.
          took the words right out of my mouth.

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          • RockyMarcianofan00
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            #25
            Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
            Johnson is probably one of the most overrated of all time. Some older generation black people regard him as the greatest of all time which is frankly pathetic.
            took the words right out of my mouth

            Johnson has the most padded record

            look at his record half the guys had never even fought before so don't tell me Marciano's worse, lets not even go there, i've said before that the guy was a decent fighter but anybody who has him in top10 is being biased
            if the guy was white nobody would have even mentioned him

            I don't see people putting James J Jefferies, or John L. Sullivan in there top 10's

            so don't go saying ****, i didn't say he was the worst but i said he wasn't the greatest either

            Marciano's time had better fighters also, Johnson got knocked down by middleweights, and if he fought in a weaker time then Marciano how come Johnson didn't go 49-0 don't even compare the two. they used thinner gloves back then and Johnson never did half the damage Marciano did.

            Johnson's biggest fight was against a washed up Jefferies so pls just stop

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            • SuzieQ49
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              #26
              this is pretty funny considering we got a long list of names such as leon spinx, 1990s george foreman, shannon briggs, marvin hart, buster douglas, hasim rahman.......... YET we got people mentioning james jeffries, sonny liston and jack johnson as possbilities.


              WHAT A ****IN JOKE!

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              • RockyMarcianofan00
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                #27
                I'm not sure i'd put sonny liston on that list because

                if his fights weren't controlled by the mob then yes he was a good fighter to an extent

                but if they weree he belongs on this list

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                • butterfly1964
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00
                  Johnson got knocked down by middleweights
                  what in the world is archie moore, then?

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                  • RockyMarcianofan00
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by butterfly1964
                    what in the world is archie moore, then?
                    i can't believe you even ask that

                    He fought at LHW and was actually a very good Heavyweight unlike Middleweights that just bloat themselves up to a weight without the skill to be there

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                    • butterfly1964
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00
                      i can't believe you even ask that

                      He fought at LHW and was actually a very good Heavyweight unlike Middleweights that just bloat themselves up to a weight without the skill to be there
                      he fought at middleweight for several years as well.

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