lets see john ruiz, buster douglas, hasim rahman, michael spinks, leon spinks, jim jefries, jess willard, sonny liston, jimmy ellis.
worst hw champ ever
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Originally posted by Talking TurkeySorry guys, i'd still say Seldon.Comment
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Originally posted by NextRockylets see john ruiz, buster douglas, hasim rahman, michael spinks, leon spinks, jim jefries, jess willard, sonny liston, jimmy ellis.
Jim Jeffires?? How can you say he was one of the worse heavyweight champs?? he should make almost any one's top 15 or 16 list. One of the elite of the divison. He clear out his era, and was the BEST in his era. I think the Johnson fight over shadows anything Jeffies has done. But he holds wins over Fitz, Corbett, Sharkey, Jackson and others. and these are good to GREAT fighters.
A pre Version Rocky Marciano if one thinks about it.Comment
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Putting Liston and Jeffries in with those other guys is just plain ignorant. Jeffries was arguably a top ten heavyweight, a definitely a top fifteen at least. Liston is without a doubt top ten.Comment
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Leon Spinks or Bruce Seldon
Although Leon Spinks didn't always look awful, he was probably the worst heavyweight champ of all time, no better than a pretty good cruiserweight with maybe an average chin. His overall skill level was maybe on a par with Tommy "Hurricane" Jackson, and somewhat less than plenty of good journeyman fighters such as Oscar Bonavena and George Chuvalo.
Bruce Seldon was an awesome-looking boxer who could easily have chosen to be a body builder rather than a fighter. I don't know if he truly had a glass jaw or else simply froze under pressure, but he simply couldn't be counted on to make it to the final bell against a decent puncher. I saw his fights with Bowe, Oliver McCall and Tyson and a couple of his earlier fights when he was still undefeated and on the rise.
I actually had high hopes for Seldon before his fight with McCall, because he was big, fast, physically very strong and had both a decent jab and a respectable body attack. To his credit he did accumulate some decent wins during his career, against Jose Ribalta, Jesse "thunder" Ferguson, Greg Page, Tony Tucker, and Joe Hipp, so all things considered he was a bit better than Leon Spinks.Comment
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Jack Johnson isn't the worst but he may very well be one of the worst, he fought in a weak time, he had weight advantage height advantage and still got knocked down by middleweights
he fought bums and no names
i think that should count as horribleComment
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