worst hw champ ever

[Emon723]

If WBO title holders are counted, then the worst comes from that organization, michael bentt for example.

[j]

how the **** can anyone mention jack johnson of jim jeffries? wtf? these guys fought when the boxing gloves were like the mittens you guys wear today. you had to be one tough bastard to fight with those poor excuses for boxing gloves on.

dropped on head as a baby syndrome award goes to blockhead for suggesting vitali klitschko.

[sleazyfellow]

primo carnera has got to be the worst i seen....its either him or neon leon, but i think leon at least had a little skill whereas carnera had none. He was just a freakshow champion...big, and no skill whatsoever

[Brassangel]

Leon Spinks was a horrible champion with potential to be a decent fighter. *CRACK*

James Douglas was a horrible champion who fought an amazing fight against a not-there great to gain the belt. He then put on almost 15 pounds and punched slow as a sloth in his fight with Holyfield.

John Ruiz ****** in this position.

Can't say much for Vaulev either, since he won't fight anybody at the top of the organizations; he's hoping to surpass the previously mentioned Marciano at 49-0 before fighting anybody important, I'd guess.

A lot of the guys who have been champion since Lewis and Klitschko have to be up there.

[SABBATH]

If ur gonna go by that, then i can easily say that from 1900-1935 the coloured champ had a legit claim to the belt cuz they were more active. At times the coloured champ was much better than the "real champ".

Jack Johnson takes the blame for leaving such a bad impression as champ that blacks were denied a shot at the title for years afterwards. I don't necessarily buy into that theory. Those were racist times and a quality black heavyweight could still be avoided by a white fighter during the eras that followed Johnson without fear of repurcussion. If Johnson had have acted as a humble model citizen I still don't think the doors would have swung wide open in subsequent years for black heavyweights.

Jack basically chased Tommy Burns around the globe pressing him for a fight until the venue, money, and champion's pride allowed that fight to happen.

The timing was just right for Joe Louis who came along at one of the most boring periods of heavyweight history (Sharkey,Schmeling, Carnera, Baer, Braddock) was an exciting, explosive KO fighter (brought in the big gate receipts) and had underworld connections through his management team of Julian Black and John Roxborough. Even still Louis had to sign away a % of future earnings to Jim Braddock to get his title shot.

The colour barrier wasn't really broken until Louis defended against Walcott.

[brownpimp88]

Jack Johnson takes the blame for leaving such a bad impression as champ that blacks were denied a shot at the title for years afterwards. I don't necessarily buy into that theory. Those were racist times and a quality black heavyweight could still be avoided by a white fighter during the eras that followed Johnson without fear of repurcussion. If Johnson had have acted as a humble model citizen I still don't think the doors would have swung wide open in subsequent years for black heavyweights.

Jack basically chased Tommy Burns around the globe pressing him for a fight until the venue, money, and champion's pride allowed that fight to happen.

The timing was just right for Joe Louis who came along at one of the most boring periods of heavyweight history (Sharkey,Schmeling, Carnera, Baer, Braddock) was an exciting, explosive KO fighter (brought in the big gate receipts) and had underworld connections through his management team of Julian Black and John Roxborough. Even still Louis had to sign away a % of future earnings to Jim Braddock to get his title shot.

The colour barrier wasn't really broken until Louis defended against Walcott.

If you think about it, Joe Louis and Rocky were the first Real Undisputed champs. Am i gonna belive that willard is the real champ when harry wills and langford are fighting each other for the real belt, while he takes 4 years off.

Dont let kid achilles know that 1926-1937 was the worst time frame in heavyweight history, he will go insane. Damn it must have ****** to watch heavyweight boxing back then, the champs were god damn aweful and they were defending the belt once a year.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

If you think about it, Joe Louis and Rocky were the first Real Undisputed champs. Am i gonna belive that willard is the real champ when harry wills and langford are fighting each other for the real belt, while he takes 4 years off.

Dont let kid achilles know that 1926-1937 was the worst time frame in heavyweight history, he will go insane. Damn it must have ****** to watch heavyweight boxing back then, the champs were god damn aweful and they were defending the belt once a year.

Yea but I'd much rather watch a fight back then, rather then a fight today...Today with all the rules and regulations fighters can hardly get knocked down.....I mean back then fighters could fall through the ropes and get up and keep going. I bet if you fell out of the ropes today the fight would be called. Dempsey - Firpo today lol....

Of course the safety measures are good I'm just saying its more exciting watching two guys beat the **** out of each other..

[Soundtraveler]

Much too hard to speak about fighters who were long dead before I was even born and truly form an opinion that could be considered relevant. If you were not there to actually bare witness to how "good" the opponants for a particular fighter were, then you are left with nothing but records. Records are very misleading, look at Emanual Burton for instance, who has a terrible record, but was actually a good fighter in his own right. To say that someone like Jack Johnson "never faced" any good opponants is rediculous, too many factors are involved, the sport itself was basically in it's infancy, despite the earlier exploits of a John L Sullivan, etc..

Take into consideration training methods, equipment, diet etc, and you can easily see a HUGE difference in the fighters of yesterday versus todays' fighters. The fighters back then were limited in numbers opponant wise as well, and communication was at best subjective, with the media having free reign on giving their own versions of what a fighter looked like, or even how a fight went, and there were plenty of exaggerated reports. There were no t.v. cameras or video to hold a sports writer to report a fight as it actually happened.

So, most of you, who are even younger than I am, can only truly base an opinion on fighters that you have seen first hand. Anything else is simply conjecture. For me, the worst excuse of a Heavyweight Champion in my opinion has to be Jon Ruiz, who would rather hug his opponant rather than actually "punch" him....

[butterfly1964]

Much too hard to speak about fighters who were long dead before I was even born and truly form an opinion that could be considered relevant. If you were not there to actually bare witness to how "good" the opponants for a particular fighter were, then you are left with nothing but records. Records are very misleading, look at Emanual Burton for instance, who has a terrible record, but was actually a good fighter in his own right. To say that someone like Jack Johnson "never faced" any good opponants is rediculous, too many factors are involved, the sport itself was basically in it's infancy, despite the earlier exploits of a John L Sullivan, etc..

Take into consideration training methods, equipment, diet etc, and you can easily see a HUGE difference in the fighters of yesterday versus todays' fighters. The fighters back then were limited in numbers opponant wise as well, and communication was at best subjective, with the media having free reign on giving their own versions of what a fighter looked like, or even how a fight went, and there were plenty of exaggerated reports. There were no t.v. cameras or video to hold a sports writer to report a fight as it actually happened.

So, most of you, who are even younger than I am, can only truly base an opinion on fighters that you have seen first hand. Anything else is simply conjecture. For me, the worst excuse of a Heavyweight Champion in my opinion has to be Jon Ruiz, who would rather hug his opponant rather than actually "punch" him....

Good post.

[butterfly1964]

For me, the worst excuse of a Heavyweight Champion in my opinion has to be Jon Ruiz, who would rather hug his opponant rather than actually "punch" him....

Haha, lol!