Why have modern fighters not evolved to be better than SRR

[juggernaut666]

Go back to the "fantasy" section sonny over hear you'll be torn up!
In fantasy land it's mostly BS here it's facts!
Ray

Ray im not the one who Listed Jersey Walcott at 5'3 ....

[Ray Corso]

You missed the entire point I made................
Joe Walcott 5'1"
Jersey Joe Walcott 5'11"

you didn't write Jersey Joe when referencing to Walcott. I simply explained to you that there was a "Joe Walcott" who was an outstanding fighter in the early part of the century. Thats all sonny you missed the entire post!

It's not about "correcting" your stats it's more about stating you were WRONG! Everyone makes mistakes especially when referencing from years ago. You young man don't know the history of the great performers so why not study and then form opinions.

ps Robinson at 6'4" 225 would be the champ, just like he was at 147--60!
he fought better competition than Wlad, thats for sure!

No go to the library and work!
Ray

[juggernaut666]

You missed the entire point I made................
Joe Walcott 5'1"
Jersey Joe Walcott 5'11"

you didn't write Jersey Joe when referencing to Walcott. I simply explained to you that there was a "Joe Walcott" who was an outstanding fighter in the early part of the century. Thats all sonny you missed the entire post!

It's not about "correcting" your stats it's more about stating you were WRONG! Everyone makes mistakes especially when referencing from years ago. You young man don't know the history of the great performers so why not study and then form opinions.

ps Robinson at 6'4" 225 would be the champ, just like he was at 147--60!
he fought better competition than Wlad, thats for sure!

No go to the library and work!
Ray

Excuses ,Excuses ....not being able to decipher which Walcott it was speaks for itself!

Imagine Wlad struggling with Lamotta ? : Ray go read up on boxing mechanics since you think weight is not important .

[New England]

boxing is a niche sport today.

in robinson's era, it was arguably the planet's most popular sport.


has jousting evolved?

[Hype job]

boxing is a niche sport today.

in robinson's era, it was arguably the planet's most popular sport.


has jousting evolved?

True but I don't think they were as good back then.

No difference from the late 70s and todays fighters though.

Similar to 'soccer' the so called best ever Pele was not the best ever if you watched him, you can see Maradona, Messi, Cruyff and Brasilian Ronaldo were clearly better than him.

[TheMexHurricane]

EXTREME FEAR OF WHAT ISN'T CONSISTENT WITH THE "SACRED" AMERICAN NARRATIVE

NO NEW IDEAS

NO ORIGINALITY

NOTHING MENTALLY STIMULATING


This is why boxing hasn't evolved. When I read the garbage on this thread and on this website by commenters, I ACTUALLY feel like I'm reading what a child would write.

On this cue I'm going to do alot less reading of what's on this website and especially comment alot less, if at all.

Oh, and throw in the lack of objectivity and honesty and the extreme lack of strength of character...... and it's obvious that I'm surrounded by exceedingly less evolved, albeit much more educated, human beings.

[joeandthebums]

Similar to 'soccer' the so called best ever Pele was not the best ever if you watched him, you can see Maradona, Messi, Cruyff and Brasilian Ronaldo were clearly better than him.

Pele whilst clearly very good at that sport has never seriously been considered the best of his own nationality, let alone of the entire world and of soccer history.

When comparing different eras in a sport such as soccer, much like athletes and many others, yet not boxing, the need is there to factor in the technological advances in equipment and modifications of rules which have equated to the modern enhanced athlete having significant advantages.

A common question in this instance is;

Could Usian Bolt run sub 10 in the same conditions and equipment that Jesse Owens had available to him at the Olympics in Berlin 1936?

[billeau2]

Lamotta would be easy pickings for floyd ,he would get battered for how long it takes.only thing I was wrong with is his actual stats in size,it doesn't change the other factors...as far as I know Lamatta was 150/160 pounder.Regardless the out come still favors Floyd...you seem to like to nit pick but Robinson fought Lamotta in different weight classes as well..knowing Lamottas history I know he was a natural 150 pounder,so it doesn't matter .apparently WEIGHT is now important in hurting a certain fighter because he was BIGGER as you stated Lamotta being 170 wouldn't feel floyds punches ,but when it comes to certain fighters weight is a non issue...really Ray?...yes it bed time!

The simple truth of it is that Floyd never fought a fighter who could press and who was HALF as relentless as Lamotta....Half. If a fairly decent pressure guy like Madianna could get to Floyd LaMotta would rip into Floyd like a buzzsaw.

[juggernaut666]

The simple truth of it is that Floyd never fought a fighter who could press and who was HALF as relentless as Lamotta....Half. If a fairly decent pressure guy like Madianna could get to Floyd LaMotta would rip into Floyd like a buzzsaw.

Canelo ...and looking at Lamotta well hes basically tough but easy to read he almost always doesnt hide where hes going to attack ,cant see him beating Floyd the caliber of skill is difference is crystal clear ..You have to have fast feet to beat Floyd and hands ,Lamotta had neither .

[Humean]

Pele whilst clearly very good at that sport has never seriously been considered the best of his own nationality, let alone of the entire world and of soccer history.

When comparing different eras in a sport such as soccer, much like athletes and many others, yet not boxing, the need is there to factor in the technological advances in equipment and modifications of rules which have equated to the modern enhanced athlete having significant advantages.

A common question in this instance is;

Could Usian Bolt run sub 10 in the same conditions and equipment that Jesse Owens had available to him at the Olympics in Berlin 1936?

Pele is routinely considered the greatest footballer ever.

Do you mean Usain Bolt as he is now but simply running with Jesse Owen era running shoes, clothing and running track? If so then I think he would go under 10 seconds, but he'd never get close to his world record of 9.58 and I doubt he'd be able to break 9.9.

The increase in running times over the decades in the 100 metres sprint are caused by a variety of things, the equipment is certainly part of the story. Running tracks are 'faster' now than they were in 1936, running shoes and clothes also allow for fasting times. Technological progress has helped in other ways, not just with helping to improve fitness and bodily strength but also in medicine. If Usain was born in 1913 like Jesse Owens then due to disease there is a good chance Bolt wouldn't have grown to 6'5".

Boxing has probably seen less progress than most sports, mainly because the fundamental equipment used during fights have not progressed in such a way that it improves performance although I think the improvements in refereeing and things like thumbless gloves has made fights fairer than in the past. Boxers are definitely stronger than they were in the past, partly because they have access to creatine (legal) and of course steroids. The improvements in strength are certainly evident in the knockout ratios. Robinson was one of the very hardest punchers in his era, today he probably would still be considered powerful but just not as close to the top of the pile.