Why have modern fighters not evolved to be better than SRR

[juggernaut666]

Anyone who can't see the skill of a LaMotta isn't a very knowledgeable evaluator. Just because a man works out of a crouch and bends in the waist
doesn't mean he is skilless it's just another form and style. Theres balance to be considered when low and always distance and cutting the ring down to trap.

LaMotta was the Middleweight Champion and a feared fighter by all contenders except Robinson. He deafeated Robinson by points in one of five match ups. LaMotta put combos together very effectively and had an outstanding chin and endurance.

LaMotta vs Floyd would be feeding steaks to Lions, in this case Bulls!
LaMotta rehydrated from 160 to 175 in 15 hours! Floyds punches would do NOTHING to LaMotta!

Why don't novice fans research past greats before they spew garbage?
As for Jones vs Robinson at 168, it could be a good match because of Jones speed but thats all he has equal to Robinson. Jones is a top twenty lightheavy, Robinson is the best from 140 to 160. I'll take Sugarman.

Ray

Lamotta was skilled ...he was also 5'6 and not nearly or remotely on either floyds or Jones skill level or stature.Being 5'6 or so really doesn't hold his chances with a speedster like either.Put those little gloves on Floyd and Lamottas chances are even further down graded due to increase punching speed.Middle weight was how much in his day?Lets be real here its a terrible match up for him against Floyd who is elusive/bigger and more skilled in about everything,he is no Pacman he is wild and easy to read.Spew garbage Ray? At least you lessoned the meds today....then again you mysteriously brought up WEIGHT the one thing you insist does not factor anything in boxing,i guess when the argument only suits you??????

[Ray Corso]

If ignorance was bliss you'd be laughing all day long!

Study the history sonny so you atleast know heights & weights!

LaMotta would never fight Floyd because Floyd would NEVER sign to fight him!!!
No time for this tonite,more lieing and carrying on like children do.......

[juggernaut666]

If ignorance was bliss you'd be laughing all day long!

Study the history sonny so you atleast know heights & weights!

LaMotta would never fight Floyd because Floyd would NEVER sign to fight him!!!
No time for this tonite,more lieing and carrying on like children do.......

Lamotta would be easy pickings for floyd ,he would get battered for how long it takes.only thing I was wrong with is his actual stats in size,it doesn't change the other factors...as far as I know Lamatta was 150/160 pounder.Regardless the out come still favors Floyd...you seem to like to nit pick but Robinson fought Lamotta in different weight classes as well..knowing Lamottas history I know he was a natural 150 pounder,so it doesn't matter .apparently WEIGHT is now important in hurting a certain fighter because he was BIGGER as you stated Lamotta being 170 wouldn't feel floyds punches ,but when it comes to certain fighters weight is a non issue...really Ray?...yes it bed time!

[Ray Corso]

LaMotta NEVER fought at 150 he was a Middleweight who rehydrated to 175 can't you read?

Do and say what you want, you just said you know little about him then shut up and go learn something. Theres a reason your looked at as a idiot here....
you ARE an idiot!


Anyone who doesn't know the history surrounding Jake LaMotta knows very little about the history of boxing. He was one of the most colorfull and feared fighters ever. Try to learn something before you open your "boca grande".
nite jerk!

[juggernaut666]

LaMotta NEVER fought at 150 he was a Middleweight who rehydrated to 175 can't you read?

Do and say what you want, you just said you know little about him then shut up and go learn something. Theres a reason your looked at as a idiot here....
you ARE an idiot!


Anyone who doesn't know the history surrounding Jake LaMotta knows very little about the history of boxing. He was one of the most colorfull and feared fighters ever. Try to learn something before you open your "boca grande".
nite jerk!

you're a fool RAY,Lamotta fought at 154 the same as Floyd at one point so why don't we keep the match realistic...again Ray according to you size doesn't count so who cares right? Im not writing a personal life on Lamotta im posting a match up of what may happen in the ring to show fighters did improve over the ones who Robinson fought,i can also tell you as a TRAINED athlete myself no way is Lamotta the 175 hulk at 5'8 you make him out be he entire body doesn't even look remotely 160,he actually would look like me if I fasted for a month...again Ray .

[rightsideup]

you're a fool RAY,Lamotta fought at 154 the same as Floyd at one point so why don't we keep the match realistic...again Ray according to you size doesn't count so who cares right? Im not writing a personal life on Lamotta im posting a match up of what may happen in the ring to show fighters did improve over the ones who Robinson fought,i can also tell you as a TRAINED athlete myself no way is Lamotta the 175 hulk at 5'8 you make him out be he entire body doesn't even look remotely 160,he actually would look like me if I fasted for a month...again Ray .

Jake was 5'8 and fought as an amateur at 175 he had a huge neck and was certainly bigger than Floyd.

[juggernaut666]

Jake was 5'8 and fought as an amateur at 175 he had a huge neck and was certainly bigger than Floyd.

I did say he was 5'8 ....he fought at 154....he fought SRR at around 155 in the clips I saw.Just because he is also fighting in weight division doesn't necessarily mean hes that weight.according to Ray size never counts so its a wash regardless.he simply made Jake a 175 pounder vs Floyd the 150 pounder to win an argument,something he hasn't done with me yet...Lamotta is not nearly as skilled and at 154 pounds imop would get tattod by Floyd though I would root for Lamotta. .

[joeandthebums]

....he fought SRR at around 155 in the clips I saw.

I don't think LaMotta was ever that low in a boxing contest, amateur or professional.

The clip you saw of Robinson-LaMotta, their sixth contest, he would of been in the region of 168.

LaMotta had serious trouble getting down to weight so he didn't lose the crown before even entering the ring.

Such was his difficulty on that occasion that he successfully lobbied for a 10am weigh-in, two hours earlier than standard procedure to allow him extra time to recover.

[juggernaut666]

I don't think LaMotta was ever that low in a boxing contest, amateur or professional.

The clip you saw of Robinson-LaMotta, their sixth contest, he would of been in the region of 168.

LaMotta had serious trouble getting down to weight so he didn't lose the crown before even entering the ring.

Such was his difficulty on that occasion that he successfully lobbied for a 10am weigh-in, two hours earlier than standard procedure to allow him extra time to recover.

Lamotta vs SRR 1 .....he is introduced at 155 ,and there is no way he is even close 165 in that fight at 5'8

[Roy Keane]

IMO Jones jr was quite a lot faster then Robinson and has all the physical advantages at the weight except chin but Jones extreme reflexes would negate Robinson's chin advantage, 168lbs Jones wins no doubt in my mind. At WW & MW Robinson matches up well with anyone, 168-175lbs A LOT of fighters IMO would beat him. Jones, Toney, Ward, Calzaghe to name a few. People will laugh at Calzaghe but he had a great engine, very fast, good chin and an adaptable fighter.