Why have modern fighters not evolved to be better than SRR

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  • Roy Keane
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    #111
    I think Robinson was great for his time and I believe you get judged on that so I have no problem with people thinking he is the greatest. But he is not the best. As their is no footage of him at 147lbs we cannot judge but from 160-175lbs loads of fighter would have handled him no problems.

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      #112
      Originally posted by Roy Keane
      I think Robinson was great for his time and I believe you get judged on that so I have no problem with people thinking he is the greatest. But he is not the best. As their is no footage of him at 147lbs we cannot judge but from 160-175lbs loads of fighter would have handled him no problems.
      Maybe you could be more specific than "loads."

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      • Roy Keane
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        #113
        Hagler
        Jone jr
        Ward
        Calzaghe
        Hopkins
        Toney

        They are the ones I have seen I am sure you can throw others in as well. 160+ they hold the physical advantages. If Jake Lamotta can beat Robinson a lot of other can as well. It appears boxing is the only sport which the marvel of modern sport science does effect...

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          #114
          Originally posted by Roy Keane
          Hagler
          Jone jr
          Ward
          Calzaghe
          Hopkins
          Toney

          They are the ones I have seen I am sure you can throw others in as well. 160+ they hold the physical advantages. If Jake Lamotta can beat Robinson a lot of other can as well. It appears boxing is the only sport which the marvel of modern sport science does effect...
          A bore like Ho'kins could never beat Robinson. Who would give him a decision? I know Robinson would throw a lot of punches and I know Ho'kins wouldn't. Ho'kins never did have a punch and he has always been slow. He is a good technical boxer who never beat any great middleweights.

          He has his trinket collection and his age record. The man wanted immortality and he was not good enough to have it without some gimmicks. Only in the last few years of his career did he seek big challenges. Before that he whiled away the decades defending useless belts against ham & eggers so he could have a record.

          Aside from that, every single guy on your list is naturally bigger than Robinson. Of course they hold physical advantages, they are bigger than him. Try some middleweights. Robinson fought beyond that limit once in 200 fights.

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          • Ham Porter
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            #115

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            • MrTambourineMan
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              #116
              Nothing Worse than people who don't understand Evolution using it casually as they spew drivel.

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              • MrTambourineMan
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                #117
                Originally posted by Roy Keane
                Hagler
                Jone jr
                Ward
                Calzaghe
                Hopkins
                Toney

                They are the ones I have seen I am sure you can throw others in as well. 160+ they hold the physical advantages. If Jake Lamotta can beat Robinson a lot of other can as well. It appears boxing is the only sport which the marvel of modern sport science does effect...
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                • billeau2
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by MrTambourineMan
                  Nothing Worse than people who don't understand Evolution using it casually as they spew drivel.
                  If this were posted a million times here...put on Elroy's bottle of Tylenol, affixed to Juggernuts cap....It would be too few times.

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                  • McGoorty
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by juggernaut666
                    Exactly,boxing fans tend to look at old footage like its magic,personally I see guys like Graziano at 5'5 and using his head as a shield being destroyed today by any capable fighter ...one forgets to look at the competition they only see the fighter who is better than his less than impressive foe.
                    I do not agree with you here, the quality of opposition back then was much better than today. I also think the way judges judge fights today does nothging to improve the game, in fact they award the guy who runs and hides over the aggressor in virtually every fight these days.

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                    • them_apples
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                      #120
                      Look at an olympic record chart. And these are numerical sports with far less intangibles. There are tons of records that haven't been broken since the 80's and even way farther back.

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