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  • #21
    Originally posted by anthonydavid11 View Post
    I am very certain I read that quote from Robinson somewhere, but I do apologize. I myself could not find it anywhere on the web. And I did read that Duran himself rated Robinson ahead. Sorry for the confusion, folks!
    Okay! I finally found where I read that Sugar Ray Robinson said Roberto Duran was the best fighter ever. Actually the story is Roberto's son claims Ray Robinson told him his father was the best. Here is the article. So glad I found it!

    Well it's not loading the damned thing for some reason. It's an interview with Iran Barkley for *************. ************* asks "Do you know that Sugar Ray Robinson said, after seeing you sand Duran, he said about Duran's performance: "That's the best boxer I've ever seen." Now he asks Barkley if he heard that and Barkley says he did not. I'm not trying to say it is true, but I knew I read it somewhere.

    If you google Iran Barkley:When I boxed a legend...Roberto Duran, it should come right up.

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    • #22
      Henry Armstrong

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      • #23
        Originally posted by rightsideup View Post
        I am a big fan so I am biased but I used to hang out a cyberboxingzone and a lot of there members thought so behind robinson of course.
        Not in my opinion.

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        • #24
          Roberto was the man & his vast accomplishments back that up...

          I would place him in the top 20 alltime p4p...but #2 is stretching things a bit IMO...

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          • #25
            Originally posted by rightsideup View Post
            I am a big fan so I am biased but I used to hang out a cyberboxingzone and a lot of there members thought so behind robinson of course.
            Thomas Hearns may have something to say about it....

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            • #26
              Originally posted by JimEarl View Post
              Duran might have become the best inside fighter I've seen, much of which he probably owes his early-career trainer Ray Arcel.

              But he's just not adaptable to different styles enough to rate him that high and his record shows it.
              He's beaten every imaginable style possible. The usual thing is to say he couldn't beat boxers, but at lightweight he dominated some brilliant boxers and champions handily, then moved up and beat Ray Leonard. That's ATG and HOF level boxers of the greatest skill. To base that, which almost everyone does, off losing to Ray Leonard after first beating him is as absurd as it gets. Ray Leonard, along with being much younger, at his peak, at his best division, also had a significant size and speed advantage. He still lost and it took an unmotivated Duran and the best ever, arguably, version of Leonard to win.

              Ray Leonard
              Ken Buchanan
              Vilomar Fernandez (outboxed Alexis Arguello rather brilliantly)
              Esteban De Jesus
              Edwin Viruet (outboxed Alfredo Escalera among others)
              Saoul Mamby

              That's just a few. All very tricky, champion to HOF to ATG level boxers of high skill. You've got great jabber and movers, speedy boxer punchers, pure slick movers, fast combination punchers, rangy guys....everything. That's not going into the very obvious amount of other styles of fighters like Barkley, Moore, Palomino, Curvas etc. If you base that opinion off losing to prime and peak Hearns and Benitez, at 154, when he was clearly on the slide and had every imaginable disadvantage, well...

              At his peak, in his prime and his division, he beat every style possible with some of the savviest ring craft ever seen.

              Nevertheless, I do agree that's he's not that high. I usually rate him about 7ish.

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              • #27
                Not second. I love Duran and have him in my top ten, though I has crossed my mind that I still might be allowing my own bias to rank him where I do,

                My number 2 slot goes to Henry Armstrong.
                Last edited by K-DOGG; 02-15-2015, 12:45 AM.

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                • #28
                  Top 10 possibly.

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                  • #29
                    I'm a massive Duran fan, no problem ranking him top 10 or top 15 but number 2? That would mean you're putting him above guys like Ali or Pep or so many others...others who didn't quit. No Mas can not and should not be forgotten.

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                    • #30
                      Top 15 yeah, #2? Nope

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