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  • Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
    Dempsey was a great fighter, Wills was not.
    You've exposed your ignorance, and I wouldn't expect anything less from you.

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    • Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post
      Of course Tex Rickard was involved in 1926. He was Dempsey's go to guy, and in the end delivered to Dempsey, in Philadelphia, the largest payday to date.

      How does one conclude that Rickard wasn't involved in '26?

      Hell, if Rickard wasn't involved Dempsey may have had no choice but to take the Chicago deal.
      I think you are mischaracterizing what I said. No, Rickard was NOT involved with the Chicago deal.

      If you mean in the sense that he stole Dempsey away for a fight with Tunney for less money after Dempsey ducked the Chicago deal, then ok.

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      • Arcel watched Dempsey live from ringside starting in 1916. He lived during that era intimately involved in the sport. Typically considered boxing’s greatest trainer. When he says Wills was a “good Journeyman” who was “none too fast” his comments come with a level of knowledge no one today comes close to. Certainly not you who has not gotten the Ali era straightened out in your mind.

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        • Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View Post
          Arcel watched Dempsey live from ringside starting in 1916. He lived during that era intimately involved in the sport. Typically considered boxing’s greatest trainer. When he says Wills was a “good Journeyman” who was “none too fast” his comments come with a level of knowledge no one today comes close to. Certainly not you who has not gotten the Ali era straightened out in your mind.
          What does someone's opinion about who would have won the fight have to do with it?

          I'm sure many people were of the opinion that Foreman was going to destroy Ali. Didn't turn out that way. But at least they fought.

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          • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
            You've exposed your ignorance, and I wouldn't expect anything less from you.
            Is this because I called you your sister's name, again?

            Even you admitted your learned that trick with your tongue from her...

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            • Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
              Is this because I called you your sister's name, again?

              Even you admitted your learned that trick with your tongue from her...
              Your gimmick here is boring now. Try it with someone who cares.

              Run along and catch another ban for racism.

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              • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                I think you are mischaracterizing what I said. No, Rickard was NOT involved with the Chicago deal.

                If you mean in the sense that he stole Dempsey away for a fight with Tunney for less money after Dempsey ducked the Chicago deal, then ok.
                Tunney was actually good. In fact, he was great. He never lost to anyone as bad as Sam Langford. He didn't need to rely on nut shots, eye pokes, foot stomps, PEDs and a grotesque size advantage to win fights. He definitely never drove drunk and slammed his car into a pregnant lady.

                Maybe if Wills were actually a good fighter and not a scumbag he would've gotten a shot?

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                • Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
                  Tunney was actually good. In fact, he was great. He never lost to anyone as bad as Sam Langford. He didn't need to rely on nut shots, eye pokes, foot stomps, PEDs and a grotesque size advantage to win fights. He definitely never drove drunk and slammed his car into a pregnant lady.

                  Maybe if Wills were actually a good fighter and not a scumbag he would've gotten a shot?
                  He would have gotten a shot if Dempsey wasn't afraid he could lose.

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                  • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                    He would have gotten a shot if Dempsey wasn't afraid he could lose.
                    To a guy KOd by Langford?

                    To a guy who fumbled against a guy Dempsey bombed out in 2 rounds?

                    Wills wasn't fit to carry Tunney's jockstrap.

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                    • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                      Your gimmick here is boring now. Try it with someone who cares.

                      Run along and catch another ban for racism.
                      Mhmmm...

                      One day you're saying "i'm strong. I don't need no mayne."
                      Next:
                      "Oh Kevin come back to me, I can't live without you. No one gives it to me like you do."

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