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  • Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
    Joseph. You seriously dissapoint me.
    Who is Joseph?

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    • Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
      What fights of Floyd make you think this,, I always thought he walks down guys and cuts off ring very well..
      Judah was having success til Floyd started chasing him down,same with mosely, he walked down a big puncher like corrales, he chased down a lot f guys in his career..
      What fights are you referring to


      floyd mayweather is not a good finisher, and really doesn't do well at all coming forward in a historic context. there are scores of fighters who are more effective at pressuring and hurting an opponent. it's often something he does only when his opponent has followed him around all night and is gunshy from the counters.
      Last edited by New England; 04-06-2014, 12:42 PM.

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      • Rigondeaux

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        • No shout for Jersey Joe Walcott?

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          • Originally posted by New England View Post
            floyd mayweather is not a good finisher, and really doesn't do well at all coming forward in a historic context. there are scores of fighters who are more effective at pressuring and hurting an opponent. it's often something he does only when his opponent has followed him around all night and is gunshy from the counters.
            Floyd may not be a great finisher, high up in weight and in his mid to late 30s, but in his prime he could finish... Ndou, Corrales, genaro, manfredy, hatton, bruscles, etc...
            Higher up and weight, and top caliber fighters, its very hard to finish guys..
            Jmm, oscar, cotto, ghost, canelo, etc only cotto has been stopped when floyd fought them...

            I do agree that finishing guys isnt his strong suit, but by far floyd is still the most skillful guy i have seen in close to 30 years of watching this sport

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            • Finishing has nothing to do with skillset IMO I can't fault Whitaker or Roy Jones for not finishing their higherr weight fights. Even Ike Williams had some distance scraps and he owns the worst finish over another fighter I've eve seen.

              Here is my top 5 though

              1. Roy Jones
              2. Ray Leonard
              3. Ray Robinson
              4. Pernell Whitaker
              5. Floyd Mayweather


              Honourables of course to the rest of great technicians.

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              • Originally posted by Holywarrior View Post
                Finishing has nothing to do with skillset IMO I can't fault Whitaker or Roy Jones for not finishing their higherr weight fights. Even Ike Williams had some distance scraps and he owns the worst finish over another fighter I've eve seen.

                Here is my top 5 though

                1. Roy Jones
                2. Ray Leonard
                3. Ray Robinson
                4. Pernell Whitaker
                5. Floyd Mayweather


                Honourables of course to the rest of great technicians.
                I cant consider Roy that skilled compared to the other greats... Once his athletic ability slowed down, he never won another meaningful fight again, whereas guys like moore, hopkins, floyd, robinson, etc were all still able to pull off high level wins when they were way past their prime..
                I roy had good skills to fall back on, he would have beaten tarver in the 3rd fight and turned him into a novice sparring partner like grandpa hopkins did

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                • Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                  I cant consider Roy that skilled compared to the other greats... Once his athletic ability slowed down, he never won another meaningful fight again, whereas guys like moore, hopkins, floyd, robinson, etc were all still able to pull off high level wins when they were way past their prime..
                  I roy had good skills to fall back on, he would have beaten tarver in the 3rd fight and turned him into a novice sparring partner like grandpa hopkins did
                  He won the first Tarver fight when he looked like a ghost in there. How is that not a meaningful win? Has any light heavyweight champion moved up, won a heavyweight title and moved back down to regain that championship?

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                  • To the people who say Roy Jones: What are some examples of Roy being the most skilled fighter ever? Speed and reflexes are not skills, they're attributes.

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                    • Originally posted by Holywarrior View Post
                      He won the first Tarver fight when he looked like a ghost in there. How is that not a meaningful win? Has any light heavyweight champion moved up, won a heavyweight title and moved back down to regain that championship?
                      He beat ruiz,, its not like he beat lennox,, there have been tons of lightheavy guys that could have done that....

                      If roy had skills to fall back on, he wouldnt be getting destroyed and clowned by calzaghe, tarver 2,3, glen johnson,

                      And many people thought tarver won the 1st fight.. I thought roy won it, but it was very close....

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