Ike Ibeabuchi VS Joe Louis

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Joe Louis dominated the entire heavyweight division for a decade. Ike Ibeabuchi beat two top ten contenders. There is no comparison. You can't compare a prospect (and a good one, no doubt) to one of the top two heavyweights of all time. Boxing has changed so much that I can't make a comparison of Joe's opponents to Ike. But I'm damn sure that Ibeabuchi never faced anyone with the offensive skills of Joe Louis. And please don't tell me that Tua is even in the conversation.

Moral of the story is that Ike would walk thru Louis' shots and ko Louis.. No way Louis hurts him... Ike was a freak of nature and had great stamina,, he would have caught Louis eventually and iced him just like max schmeling and Marciano did,,,
I just don't see how Louis could hurt him.. Say what you will about Ike but he did take a prime tua's hardest shots, and showed great stamina,,, I think he would be a tough out for anyone

[dchampishere]

Honestly I feel the same you about Ike when compared to Lewis.. But no doubt in my mind he would have run all over joe....

Hello Ali!
This I know a little bit about, I was in Ike's camp for the Byrd fight and yes Ike was good but he had holes in his game and was far from the second coming.
His power is over rated also, he is a big man weighing 250 and his punch is about equal to his size not more.
Sam Peter hit twice as hard as Ike, but the only wild card is that Ike was crazy, no one would stay to talk after sparring because Ike would do very strange things.
Compared to one of the best Heavyweights in history I will go with Joe.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Hello Ali!
This I know a little bit about, I was in Ike's camp for the Byrd fight and yes Ike was good but he had holes in his game and was far from the second coming.
His power is over rated also, he is a big man weighing 250 and his punch is about equal to his size not more.
Sam Peter hit twice as hard as Ike, but the only wild card is that Ike was crazy, no one would stay to talk after sparring because Ike would do very strange things.
Compared to one of the best Heavyweights in history I will go with Joe.

That's cool you was in Ike's camp but would you like to explain how Louis would beat Ike... He wouldn't hurt him, wouldn't tire him, Louis wasn't elusive,, how would Louis beat him? How would Louis keep up with 100 punches around and over 1200 in a fight from a guy that is bigger and stronger and more durable than anyone Louis ever fought...
Who did Louis whip that is anything like Ike... Ike would easily be joe's toughest test...

[Scott9945]

Moral of the story is that Ike would walk thru Louis' shots and ko Louis.. No way Louis hurts him... Ike was a freak of nature and had great stamina,, he would have caught Louis eventually and iced him just like max schmeling and Marciano did,,,
I just don't see how Louis could hurt him.. Say what you will about Ike but he did take a prime tua's hardest shots, and showed great stamina,,, I think he would be a tough out for anyone

I guess that Ibeabuchi is the heavyweight Edwin Valero. All of his greatness based on speculation. He didn't prove anything other than he was a great prospect. Just like Tony Ayala a decade before him. Sure he looked good against Tua (who turned out to be overrated), but that doesn't make him Joe Louis. If he had fought Louis, Joe's fast short and deadly accurate punchers would have made him seem like a helpless bully. Louis batters him to a stoppage in the late rounds.

[joseph5620]

Joe Louis dominated the entire heavyweight division for a decade. Ike Ibeabuchi beat two top ten contenders. There is no comparison. You can't compare a prospect (and a good one, no doubt) to one of the top two heavyweights of all time. Boxing has changed so much that I can't make a comparison of Joe's opponents to Ike. But I'm damn sure that Ibeabuchi never faced anyone with the offensive skills of Joe Louis. And please don't tell me that Tua is even in the conversation.

I have to agree with Scott here. I need to see fighters achieve greatness before I pick them over fighters that actually did. Ibeabuchi's legacy is based on what ifs and fantasy fights. Not enough for me to pick him over Joe Louis.

[dchampishere]

That's cool you was in Ike's camp but would you like to explain how Louis would beat Ike... He wouldn't hurt him, wouldn't tire him, Louis wasn't elusive,, how would Louis beat him? How would Louis keep up with 100 punches around and over 1200 in a fight from a guy that is bigger and stronger and more durable than anyone Louis ever fought...
Who did Louis whip that is anything like Ike... Ike would easily be joe's toughest test...

Ok everybody rates Ike's chin as granite because of the Tua fight but if you watch the fight again Ike was smothering Tua's power and by the way I have tasted Tua's power also.
Against a rangy puncher like Joe if allowed to get full extension on his punches he will hurt Ike like he was hurt more than a few times in camp, but I will say he never went down but there were no punchers equal to Joe in camp with us.
Ike throws alot of punches while coming forward and that will leave him open to a counter and Ike eats counters like popcorn, that is how he was hurt every time in camp.
If Joe counters him with one of those right hand bombs it's lights out.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

1 Louis wouldn't be a rangy puncher vs Ike,, how can you be rangy when u smaller,

2 Ike proved it vs 2 top heavys of his era, Byrd and tua much better than anyone Valero or Ayala fought

3. How does schemling ko Louis but not Ike,,,

4. Louis has a better legacy but legacy don't win you fights,

5. Who on Louis' resume is anything like Ike

6 not trying to degrade Louis but Ike would be a nightmare for him

[SN!PER]

Hello Ali!
This I know a little bit about, I was in Ike's camp for the Byrd fight and yes Ike was good but he had holes in his game and was far from the second coming.
His power is over rated also, he is a big man weighing 250 and his punch is about equal to his size not more.
Sam Peter hit twice as hard as Ike, but the only wild card is that Ike was crazy, no one would stay to talk after sparring because Ike would do very strange things.
Compared to one of the best Heavyweights in history I will go with Joe.

Could you tell us a bit about the experience of being in Ike's camp? What did he do after sparring that was strange?

I'm a fan of Ibeabuchi. He put so much work into every fight, and while we'll never know how he'd have performed against Lennox and Vitali, we can say with confidence that he'd have fought his heart out.

[dchampishere]

Could you tell us a bit about the experience of being in Ike's camp? What did he do after sparring that was strange?

I'm a fan of Ibeabuchi. He put so much work into every fight, and while we'll never know how he'd have performed against Lennox and Vitali, we can say with confidence that he'd have fought his heart out.

It was the strangest camp I have ever been in but I stayed because the money was good,
I will not put out anyone's dirty laundry but one example all the sparring partners had to get there before Ike and stand in line while Ike passed by not looking at us talking and laughing to himself.

[Rossman]

Imagine the superiority Roy Jones had at middleweight. Joe Louis had the same amazing skills and dominance at heavyweight. In his early days he was in an other dimension skill wise. I seriously doubt a guy that barely won on points against Tua would have a chance against one of the best ever.