Top 10 p4p hardest hitters of all time?

[AlexKid]

Write your guess

Here is mine (Remember its p4p so their shouldnt be many if any HW in there)



1) Julian Jackson (watch his KO highlight, undesputable, nuff said)

2) Nigel Benn (turned gerald into a "cripple" which is something Julian Jacksons punches didnt do)

3) Hitman Hearns (that straight right was dynamite)

4) Jack Dempsey (had power way above his physical frame, known as the giant killer for a reason) in a modern era with weight cutting he would have been a LHW

5) Naseem Hammed (never known such a light man to hit so hard)

[IronDanHamza]

I don't think it was Nigel Benn's punches that caused McClellans brain damage.

More so the consistent bashing his brain had taken in both fights and sparring and the Benn fight being the final breaking point.

[joseph5620]

I don't think it was Nigel Benn's punches that caused McClellans brain damage.

More so the consistent bashing his brain had taken in both fights and sparring and the Benn fight being the final breaking point.

I agree 100 percent.

[AlexKid]

I don't think it was Nigel Benn's punches that caused McClellans brain damage.

More so the consistent bashing his brain had taken in both fights and sparring and the Benn fight being the final breaking point.

Thats an interesting theory IronDanHamza.

[AlexKid]

I agree 100 percent.

Your agreement with a theory is very very interesting!

[Sugarj]

I think the reasons for Gerald McClellan's plight are becoming as much a cliché as the belief that all you had to do to beat Mike Tyson was to stand up to him.

I, like many others on the site have been unfortunate to watch quite a few fights where the loser suffered serious brain damage or death; and often you can be mistaken for thinking that you'd seen other boxers take much more serious beatings and suffer no obvious injury.

Sometimes the brain can suffer minor injuries in previous bouts or sparring that might lead to a weakness that becomes exposed in a later fight. Earnie Scaff's death was attributed to an injury picked up in a previous bout with Max Baer rather than in his losing bout to Primo Carnera. But who is to say that Carnera's punches might not have caused the injury in it's entirety? Just the belief that the previous guy was a harder puncher.....

In the absence of a MRI scan or similar prior to the Benn fight, we simply can't make any definite conclusions. We know that Julian Jackson hurt McClellan in their first fight, but that was nearly two years before the Benn fight!

We hear rumours that McClellan suffered from headaches, that he sparred with heavyweights........but why the hell can't people accept that the damage just might have been done by Benn's punches? He was far from feather fisted.

Benn was a murderous puncher at middleweight and pretty damned useful at super middleweight. After the first round he landed with flush hooks on a regular and consistent basis, not to mention quite a few rabbit punches and a pretty savage (though apparently unintentional) lunging headbutt.

The brain is a very complex and incredible organ, is it any real surprise that occasionally a professional boxer has a brain bleed no matter who they are?

Next we'll be hearing that Michael Watson's injury in his second fight with Chris Eubank was really down to punishment he received in his match two years before with Nigel Benn that he won! Or Mike McCallum!!

Its very sad when these tragedies do occur.......but trying to get to the bottom of who or which punch is to blame is nothing more than rumour or opinion.

[IronDanHamza]

I think the reasons for Gerald McClellan's plight are becoming as much a cliché as the belief that all you had to do to beat Mike Tyson was to stand up to him.

I, like many others on the site have been unfortunate to watch quite a few fights where the loser suffered serious brain damage or death; and often you can be mistaken for thinking that you'd seen other boxers take much more serious beatings and suffer no obvious injury.

Sometimes the brain can suffer minor injuries in previous bouts or sparring that might lead to a weakness that becomes exposed in a later fight. Earnie Scaff's death was attributed to an injury picked up in a previous bout with Max Baer rather than in his losing bout to Primo Carnera. But who is to say that Carnera's punches might not have caused the injury in it's entirety? Just the belief that the previous guy was a harder puncher.....

In the absence of a MRI scan or similar prior to the Benn fight, we simply can't make any definite conclusions. We know that Julian Jackson hurt McClellan in their first fight, but that was nearly two years before the Benn fight!

We hear rumours that McClellan suffered from headaches, that he sparred with heavyweights........but why the hell can't people accept that the damage just might have been done by Benn's punches? He was far from feather fisted.

Benn was a murderous puncher at middleweight and pretty damned useful at super middleweight. After the first round he landed with flush hooks on a regular and consistent basis, not to mention quite a few rabbit punches and a pretty savage (though apparently unintentional) lunging headbutt.

The brain is a very complex and incredible organ, is it any real surprise that occasionally a professional boxer has a brain bleed no matter who they are?

Next we'll be hearing that Michael Watson's injury in his second fight with Chris Eubank was really down to punishment he received in his match two years before with Nigel Benn that he won! Or Mike McCallum!!

Its very sad when these tragedies do occur.......but trying to get to the bottom of who or which punch is to blame is nothing more than rumour or opinion.

I think there might be a slight difference considering Eubank actually knocked out Watson whereas McClellean wasn't knocked out or even dropped by a single blow.

When fighters have died in the ring or been brain damaged, how many times did it happen in the manner McClellan did. This obviously wasn't your average case.

Your last sentence is exactly what others are doing, expressing their thoughts on what might have happened. Neither you or anyone else has any idea what actually happened other than speculation.

I myself, I think the damage was done before he got to Benn and was only a matter of time before the tragic ending would happen.

[U_TALKING_2_ME?]

Write your guess

Here is mine (Remember its p4p so their shouldnt be many if any HW in there)



1) Julian Jackson (watch his KO highlight, undesputable, nuff said)

2) Nigel Benn (turned gerald into a "cripple" which is something Julian Jacksons punches didnt do)

3) Hitman Hearns (that straight right was dynamite)

4) Jack Dempsey (had power way above his physical frame, known as the giant killer for a reason) in a modern era with weight cutting he would have been a LHW

5) Naseem Hammed (never known such a light man to hit so hard)

Alex my man, here is where your ignorance turns offensive to those who love this sport and who have actually competed.

His punches turned him into a "cripple"?

If your dumbass cant think of a better description please stop posting.

And all of your questions in the training section smell of a kid who never has and never will get in the ring so someone can turn you into a cripple also, so please stop asking those asinine questions.

Fu@king kids these days.

[RubenSonny]

McClellan had complained of feeling rushing water on his brain before the Benn fight.

[New England]

McClellan had complained of feeling rushing water on his brain before the Benn fight.

i don't think it's ever appropriate to discount the damage a fighter had taken in his career prior to a fight. in addition to a championship level pro career, mclellan was a good amateur [beat roy jones] and was boxing out of one of the best gyms in the country. your brain takes damage along the way.


i've heard from several sources that mcclellan had "headaches" following his first fight with julian jackson. i've never heard him describing the feeling of "rushing water," that you describe. that's pretty remarkable stuff. jackson is one of the hardest / sharpest punches ever, and he did hit mcclellan with several bombs.



nothin but a g thang.
i hope somebody watches this thing with me.