Top 10 p4p hardest hitters of all time?

[IronDanHamza]

The relevance was that they weren't bums and journeymen.

Who has even said that?

They weren't all bums and journeyman but like I said however many posts ago a lot of them weren't ranked in both of his reigns.

I'm saying that your reasoning is circular. DeMarco has fought only two bona fide world class opponents in Valero and Broner and been stopped by both. By your own reasoning that renders him not durable but this is circular reasoning. It is fallacious.

It doesn't render him not durable because he took a beating in both fights by guys who can punch.

It's fallascious..So you consider him to be very durable then I can assume?

Looking at the impact of his punches is of course strong evidence of punching power. I honestly don't understand how that is comical to you.

I'm not surprised that you don't.

There might be a lot of evidence left to come because his career is still in full swing, how could I evaluate Broner without considering what evidence the future may have? The evidence at present does suggest Broner was a very formidable puncher at 130 and 135.

No, the evidence at present suggests he's a GREAT puncher (To you).

And why does future evidence matter? It's not a factor for Valero.

His stamp at 130 and 135 has been left.

It is, it involves the taking and evaluating of evidence and reasoning. Your argument is roughly equivalent of saying that you can only know that it is raining outside if only one piece of evidence is forthcoming, that all the other ways to know it is raining outside are irrelevant.

Again, because knowing if it's raining outside is the same as knowing if a fighter is a great puncher.

In your mind, that's genuinely a good comparison.

[New England]

Jaime Garza
Adrien Broner
Deontay Wilder

GREAT punchers.

Check out the "Evidence"

Ali Raymi likely a future ATG puncher based on the Evidence aswell don't forget.

1. Looks like he punches hard. Check
2. 20 1 Round KO's in a row. Check

That's two critiera of the evidence checked already.

All he needs now is some sparring testimonials and it's damn near irrefutable scientific evidence.

add tyrone brunson.

i saw him fight live, actually. he wasn't even the hardest puncher at 154 on the card. angulo's punches sounded like somebody dropped a heavybag off of a building, and his opponent was knocked unconscious before he hit the ground.

[IronDanHamza]

dude, you said edwin valero is one of the hardest punchers of all time. not of the past few years, not of his era, but of all time. what on earth makes you think you're qualified to judge boxing knowledge of others when yours is so clearly lacking?


the confidence with which you make a fool of yourself is astounding.

What we have here, sadly, is the guy wearing the Dunce hat thinks that everyone else is a Dunce.

Intriguing watch, though.

[IronDanHamza]

add tyrone brunson.

i saw him fight live, actually. he wasn't even the hardest puncher at 154 on the card. angulo's punches sounded like somebody dropped a heavybag off of a building, and his opponent was knocked unconscious before he hit the ground.

Ah yes, Tyrone Brunson.

He knocked out his first 19 opponents in the first Round.

He also looks like he puches hard when he punches these underwhelming guys in the face and they fall over.

That's 2 of the Criteria of evidence ticked off in an instant.

All we need now as some sparring stories and we have another "GREAT" puncher on your hands.

Question; Is it raining outside at the moment in New England or was Tyrone Bunson a great puncher when you viewed his punch live? Or perhaps both? Which one was easier to conclude?

[New England]

Ah yes, Tyrone Brunson.

He knocked out his first 19 opponents in the first Round.

He also looks like he puches hard when he punches these underwhelming guys in the face and they fall over.

That's 2 of the Criteria of evidence ticked off in an instant.

All we need now as some sparring stories and we have another "GREAT" puncher on your hands.

Question; Is it raining outside at the moment in New England or was Tyrone Bunson a great puncher when you viewed his punch live? Or perhaps both? Which one was easier to conclude?

flawless logic. i've got nothing

[StarshipTrooper]

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[StarshipTrooper]

I think hank was more of a volume puncher that would overwhelm guys instead of having a one punch type power.. Def had alot of ko wins, but more like a nonstop punching barrage that would break guys instead of a hearns or foreman type guy that one clean shot would end it

Exactly right! Think better more ferocious version of Aaron Pryor and you've got Homicide Hank

[Scott9945]

add tyrone brunson.

i saw him fight live, actually. he wasn't even the hardest puncher at 154 on the card. angulo's punches sounded like somebody dropped a heavybag off of a building, and his opponent was knocked unconscious before he hit the ground.

You never hear his name mentioned with the current top punchers, but Angulo hits brutally hard.

[billeau2]

Ah yes, Tyrone Brunson.

He knocked out his first 19 opponents in the first Round.

He also looks like he puches hard when he punches these underwhelming guys in the face and they fall over.

That's 2 of the Criteria of evidence ticked off in an instant.

All we need now as some sparring stories and we have another "GREAT" puncher on your hands.

Question; Is it raining outside at the moment in New England or was Tyrone Bunson a great puncher when you viewed his punch live? Or perhaps both? Which one was easier to conclude?

Eww eeewww!!! can I be a great puncher tooo? come on guys!!

[billeau2]

:hahahaha9: Absolute destruction Gentlemen! :hahahaha9:

Nah...Humean is just oiling his shovel....yall stay tuned now ooookaaay?