How come SRR allowed many more losses late in his career

[Emon723]

He was considered the greatest, pound for pound, of all-time, checking out his record, it was already perfect for him to retire after his streak of regaining the middleweight title was snapped by Paul Pender, or after losing to Gene Fullmer, and perhaps the best final fight was knocking out that average opponent with 20 losses in a rematch, and Robinson was knock down in both fights.

Sugar Ray was 40 in 1961, and fought for 22 years, Joe Louis retired 10 years ago at age 37, and Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali also fought for 22 years from 1960-1981. From 1962-1965, Robinson suffered 10 more losses, 3 draws and 1 NC, It's bad enough his career record stands with 19 losses and 6 draws when it should have been less, at most 9 defeats and 3 draws with more than 100 victories.

[crold1]

He was considered the greatest, pound for pound, of all-time, checking out his record, it was already perfect for him to retire after his streak of regaining the middleweight title was snapped by Paul Pender, or after losing to Gene Fullmer, and perhaps the best final fight was knocking out that average opponent with 20 losses in a rematch, and Robinson was knock down in both fights.

Sugar Ray was 40 in 1961, and fought for 22 years, Joe Louis retired 10 years ago at age 37, and Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali also fought for 22 years from 1960-1981. From 1962-1965, Robinson suffered 10 more losses, 3 draws and 1 NC, It's bad enough his career record stands with 19 losses and 6 draws when it should have been less, at most 9 defeats and 3 draws with more than 100 victories.

Needed the money

[TBear]

Needed the money

Plus, fighters often have a hard time giving up. They try too regain the glory even if their body will not let them. Take Roy Jones Jr. and the older Evander Holyfield for example. It is so hard to give up and admit that your time has passed when you have been king!

[Emon723]

Plus, fighters often have a hard time giving up. They try too regain the glory even if their body will not let them. Take Roy Jones Jr. and the older Evander Holyfield for example. It is so hard to give up and admit that your time has passed when you have been king!

I never thought by the end of their careers, modern day greats like Holyfield, Roy Jones, Shane Mosley and Erik Morales had 9 or 10 losses.

Tyson was also broke and needed money, but im glad he just stopped, SRR is like Roberto Duran, who keep fighting in his 40s and suffered many more losses.

[New England]

money.....

[Ray Corso]

Getting paid out weighs losses, only the young fans today who think Mayweathers cherry picking undefeated streak is a sign of greatness think that Robinson dropping some bouts late in his career against solid fighters is sad or lessens his career!
He lost twice to Stan Harrington, a good fighter who wouldn't beat Robinson in Sugars prime but non the less earned the wins. Sugar got all expenses paid to Hawaii twice in 3 months, got paid and his fans there who would have NEVER seen him saw him box!
Boxing fans didn''t carry on like the fans today do about their favorite fighter getting beat. They weren't cry babies and understood that if you fight enough times you will have off nights and/or fight someone better!
The Mayweathers and Calzaghes really did a dissurvice to boxing fans by "scripting" their records and selling it as a great accomplishment!
Hell Robinson went 90-0 TWICE! Fighting the best fighters in the world. Ray.

[Anthony342]

So why don't fighters get better at saving their money? And is there some organization that helps fighters save their money, maybe invest it or find some kind of work after retirement? If not, the sport needs it.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

So why don't fighters get better at saving their money? And is there some organization that helps fighters save their money, maybe invest it or find some kind of work after retirement? If not, the sport needs it.

1. they get punched in the face for a living,, financial acumen is not a strong suit of theres for the most part

2. Its called a bank,, you can put money in there and save it,, they have been around for a long time,,

[Anthony342]

Yeah true, but what about some kind of pension for retired fighters, like athletes from the NFL get?

[billeau2]

Getting paid out weighs losses, only the young fans today who think Mayweathers cherry picking undefeated streak is a sign of greatness think that Robinson dropping some bouts late in his career against solid fighters is sad or lessens his career!
He lost twice to Stan Harrington, a good fighter who wouldn't beat Robinson in Sugars prime but non the less earned the wins. Sugar got all expenses paid to Hawaii twice in 3 months, got paid and his fans there who would have NEVER seen him saw him box!
Boxing fans didn''t carry on like the fans today do about their favorite fighter getting beat. They weren't cry babies and understood that if you fight enough times you will have off nights and/or fight someone better!
The Mayweathers and Calzaghes really did a dissurvice to boxing fans by "scripting" their records and selling it as a great accomplishment!
Hell Robinson went 90-0 TWICE! Fighting the best fighters in the world. Ray.

They won't let me give you anymore Green Karma Ray. You make some great points here: the entree into boxing people had because the GOAT went to Hawai,

the horrendous BS entailed by having to not lose! I recently made the point that right now Derrick Chisora, fighting at the highest levels in the division, being engaged in the most exciting heavyweight fight in perhaps years, and losing many decisions, is in position to become a mandatory fighting for the title. those "loses" were experience he gained....and all the idiots at the time were calling him a loser because of these close decisions. Truth is, at 29 if he lost a few more fights and got better because of it, he would probably get many other shots as well! (Zab Judah for example). And this kid may be the best out of the gate because he is fighting as other prospects worry about losing!

90-0 twice.....fighting some fellow greats along the way as compared to the great Sven OTTke!!!!