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  • #51
    Louis wouldnt beat ike ibeabuchi,, let alone ali,,,,,


    Im being sarcastic here

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    • #52
      Ali's resume is significantly better than Louis' and it has to be said that Louis' footwork was very slow, he was far too much of a plodder and that surely would have caused him great problems if he had had better opponents to fight in his era than he actually had. The lip was mightier than the bomber.

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      • #53
        I only rate Ali a smidge ahead for three reasons.

        1) The Farr, Conn and Walcott fights very much demonstrate Louis's technical trouble with movers. Ali was bigger, faster and more elusive than all three.....plus for me, his amazing punch resistance rules out Louis's tendency to score knockouts when behind on points.

        2) Chappie Blackburn himself felt that Johnson would have beaten Louis. I rate his opinion. If Johnson could beat Louis, then I think Ali would be more emphatic, despite the stylistic differences.

        3) I don't see any of the guys who Louis beat actually beating Ali. But I do have my doubts as to how well Louis might have coped with Liston or Foreman.

        No doubt, the fight would be terrific......and both deserve respective #1 and #2 spots.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
          I only rate Ali a smidge ahead for three reasons.

          1) The Farr, Conn and Walcott fights very much demonstrate Louis's technical trouble with movers. Ali was bigger, faster and more elusive than all three.....plus for me, his amazing punch resistance rules out Louis's tendency to score knockouts when behind on points.

          2) Chappie Blackburn himself felt that Johnson would have beaten Louis. I rate his opinion. If Johnson could beat Louis, then I think Ali would be more emphatic, despite the stylistic differences.

          3) I don't see any of the guys who Louis beat actually beating Ali. But I do have my doubts as to how well Louis might have coped with Liston or Foreman.

          No doubt, the fight would be terrific......and both deserve respective #1 and #2 spots.
          #3 is very interesting, would be a great thread topic

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
            #3 is very interesting, would be a great thread topic
            I see Foreman as the only one with the ability to drop Louis. Liston and Frazier put up good fights but fall. I'm counting out Holmes considering Ali was old and battered by then.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by GeneralZod View Post
              I see Foreman as the only one with the ability to drop Louis. Liston and Frazier put up good fights but fall. I'm counting out Holmes considering Ali was old and battered by then.
              Frazier 71 would have a helluva chance to beat Louis IMO,,

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              • #57
                Frazier's brawling would be a serious issue but i give it to The Bomber on technical skill.

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                • #58
                  I have Louis 1 and Ali 2 but have no argument with anyone ranking them in the reverse.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                    #3 is very interesting, would be a great thread topic
                    Of all the guys that Louis beat, Jersey Joe Walcott at his best would surely give even prime Ali a very tough evenings work.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
                      Of all the guys that Louis beat, Jersey Joe Walcott at his best would surely give even prime Ali a very tough evenings work.
                      My sentiments exactly.

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