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Originally posted by Ray Corso View PostIt amazes me just how ****** some people on this forum are!!!!!!
The Heavyweight Division has NO weight limits!!! You can weigh 145lbs and fight at Heavyweight do you understand that???? You dumb azz *****es!!!
The weight classes after Middle were 175 Limit for LtHvys thats the END of Limitations!!!
Tommo your insulting some great competitors like Ezzaed Charles and Walcott by calling these great fighters and men bums. Your a disrespectfull fool!
You always talk about size well Tyson at 5'9" would give away some height to Rock at 5'11" -6' if you think Rocky is less a puncher thats fine by me but you should read up on what fighters, managers, matchmakers, promotors thought of his power! Another words listen and learn from people who actually know these things instead of your assessments that are based on......Nothing! You don't know ****! Hard hitters and heavy handed fighters have NOTHING to do with how much someone weighs get that through your shallow head, moron!!...........lunch is ready, go read and learn something about Sandy Sadler or Ike Williams and report back in a week!Ray
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Originally posted by spam View PostThis is a boxing internet site. If I get banned should I care? Rocky Marciano will still be a not talent who is only liked because he is white. And If I get banned I could just make a new account. No big deal.ya know. You really need to get some more bran in your diet...or....something.
I mean. White or not, Marciano was undefeated at 49-0; and, contrary to your delusions or racial hatred, or whatever your particular axe is....that is worth something.
Was he the best? No. I don't think anyone on here is saying that. It's just that the man deserves some respect for the accomplishment he worked his ass off to achieve. He didn't duck anyone, he was an underdog most of his career. And yet, he prevailed.
I mean you're entitled to your opinion; but there's really no call to be as belligerent as you have been over a simple question that you're in the minority on. Maybe you woke up one day and said, "Hey, I wanna piss off some people 'cause I haven't gotten laid in 3 years...or I'm tired of my dad telling me how great those old fighters were, or whatever the hell.
It's your axe, and truthfully, I really don't think anyone here takes you seriously anyway. Say what you will. Rocky still did something you or any of us will never come close to doing. He carved a place in history and will be remembered for a very long time despite haters such as yourself.
Eat some ice cream or something. Sundaes are nice.
Yeah, grumpy pissdom does suit you, I suppose. Maybe you have to be nice all day and this is your vent on the world. Who knows? Too much anger dude; but hell, what do I know? After all, it's your life.
Last edited by K-DOGG; 08-25-2013, 09:50 PM.
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Can we get rid of this troll mods?
He had horrific power KOing men the size of modern heavyweights e.g. Joe Loius who was well into the 200lb mark, ezzard chales etc big dudes and Rocky was small and he didnt just KO them he put them to sleep/wasted them way longer than the usual trying to make the 10 count, I mean they couldnt even try to make the 10 count they were so out of it.
Tex Cobb got KOed by a light hitter but could take earnie shavers punches flush all night, what does that tell you? *(They call it the button for a reason)
Rocky would be highly competative at HW a rip through lower weight divisions even the best. He could do that without all the creatine, designer steroids, growth hormones, weight lifting, etc that modern boxers exploit.
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KO them! Children need patience and understanding, I have neither!
If their not gone I will be, who needs exchanges with haters!
I don't rate Wlad high as some do here and to me he's not a ATG but I do give him credit for his accomplishments and Vitali's too! They fight stiff to me and look awkward as hell but it doesn't effect the outcome negatively for them, they win!!
Fighters like Dempsey & Rocky aren't easy for most fans to understand their style and form is artfull too! They're not laterial movers like Ali and their punches come from different angles but their judgement on distances and their timing is very good. When they see a weakness they exploit it and if its not fixed by their opponents they usually win by breaking them down at their weakest point! Lots of skills there its just not recongnized by a fan who doesn't understand how a pressure inside fighter works!
i know this game very well some of the very best used to come train with me to get ready for big shows. I'm here to share some knowledge and help some young fellow looking to start fighting but I'm not here for people to tell me that Tyson is 6' tall and Wlad is an outstanding boxer!!! hahahaha lunch time later, Ray
nite Tommo1 your a pest!
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Originally posted by spam View PostRight Mcgoorty Then you realize Marciano wasn't a heavyweight and never fought any modern sized heavyweights so how does he being 180 pounds makes him better? You aren't that bright are you? Well you are a Marciano fan so the question was rhetorical. If Marciano would of fought modern sized heavyweights took their punch and knocked them you then you can say he was a small heavyweight that proved size didn't matter. But did this happen?
No Marciano was 180 pounds and fought mostly mob controlled set ups and washed up fighters.
Name a heavyweight who had a better chin than Marciano? All of them. Did Marciano get hit by true heavyweights like Foreman, Tyson, Bowe, Tua, Ibeachbuchi, either Klitschko, Razor Ruddock, Tommy Morrison, ect ect ect? But wait since he is white and he is Marciano he could right?
Because Marciano fought blown up middleweight Archie Moore who was pasted his prime, Light heavyweight Ezzard Charles who was past his prime, Cruiserweight Jersey Joe Walcott and Joe Louis who were both past their primes and got dropped by 2 of these fighters clearly he must have the greatest chin of all time right? Yeah only to white Rocky Marciano fans.
Name a modern size heavyweight like McCall, Tua, Foreman, ect ect ect that Marciano knocked out? Wait he never faced a modern sized heavyweight did he ?
No we compare every other division by their weight. We don't say Tommy Hearns could beat Wladimir Klitcshko because we want to believe it. We don't say Pernell Whitaker could beat Antonio Tarver because we want to believe it. And with the exception of Rocky Marciano because he is white I can't think of any other 5'10 short armed 180 fighter who only faced mob controlled fighters and washed up fighters getting credit for them beating true heavyweights in fantasy fighters.
And only white people like you will say Rocky Marciano is a all time great at anything. No black person cares what you think. No other race besides whites care what you think either. Rocky went 49 and 0 yeah that means something because clearly George Foreman.Lennox Lewis , Mike Tyson, Would of all went 20 and 29 facing the people Marciano fought. They would of all been undefeated too.
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