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  • #61
    Originally posted by spam View Post
    Right Mcgoorty Then you realize Marciano wasn't a heavyweight and never fought any modern sized heavyweights so how does he being 180 pounds makes him better? You aren't that bright are you? Well you are a Marciano fan so the question was rhetorical. If Marciano would of fought modern sized heavyweights took their punch and knocked them you then you can say he was a small heavyweight that proved size didn't matter. But did this happen?

    No Marciano was 180 pounds and fought mostly mob controlled set ups and washed up fighters.

    Name a heavyweight who had a better chin than Marciano? All of them. Did Marciano get hit by true heavyweights like Foreman, Tyson, Bowe, Tua, Ibeachbuchi, either Klitschko, Razor Ruddock, Tommy Morrison, ect ect ect? But wait since he is white and he is Marciano he could right?

    Because Marciano fought blown up middleweight Archie Moore who was pasted his prime, Light heavyweight Ezzard Charles who was past his prime, Cruiserweight Jersey Joe Walcott and Joe Louis who were both past their primes and got dropped by 2 of these fighters clearly he must have the greatest chin of all time right? Yeah only to white Rocky Marciano fans.

    Name a modern size heavyweight like McCall, Tua, Foreman, ect ect ect that Marciano knocked out? Wait he never faced a modern sized heavyweight did he ?

    No we compare every other division by their weight. We don't say Tommy Hearns could beat Wladimir Klitcshko because we want to believe it. We don't say Pernell Whitaker could beat Antonio Tarver because we want to believe it. And with the exception of Rocky Marciano because he is white I can't think of any other 5'10 short armed 180 fighter who only faced mob controlled fighters and washed up fighters getting credit for them beating true heavyweights in fantasy fighters.

    And only white people like you will say Rocky Marciano is a all time great at anything. No black person cares what you think. No other race besides whites care what you think either. Rocky went 49 and 0 yeah that means something because clearly George Foreman.Lennox Lewis , Mike Tyson, Would of all went 20 and 29 facing the people Marciano fought. They would of all been undefeated too.
    SPAM >> "And only white people like you will say Rocky Marciano is a all time great at anything. No black person cares what you think. No other race besides whites care what you think either. "" <<<<<<<<<<<<.................................................. .......................... .................................................. .................................................. ................................................. I seriously can't believe you said that in the year 2013 and in this Forum, incredibly lame.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by spam View Post
      Right lets give him respect for being white and being a bum and never fighting a real heavyweight but constantly gets put over real heavyweights. Well Said Panamaniac
      Oh Jesus you are stuck in the 60's, were you a boxer ?, did you take too many hard blows to that thick skull of yours. BESIDES, HOW IN HELL WOULD YOU KNOW WHAT MY SKIN COLOUR IS or what my nationality is. I am a veteran here who has been away from the site for a while and I can't believe of the crap I am reading, this was a forum with a lot of class, at least the History section was, you don't just come here spamming and insulting everyone because of your backward 1960's attitude, you sir are a troll.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
        IMO

        Rocky is very overrated,,, He retired as undefeated champ, that is why he is regarded so highly,,,,
        rocky, dempsey and even joe louis would be cruiserweights in this day and age,,,
        thats why i never try and compare guys from the early days to more modern fighters,,,

        Rocky would get brutalized by ali, foreman, tyson, lewis, holyfield, klits, and even rid**** bowe,,,, I think he only has a chance vs joe frazier

        But rocky would be destroying guys at cruiser right now,,, guys his own size, yes he could be champ at cruiser,,,,,
        Mate I think its a waste of time arguing with Spam, he has an agenda based on race, he doen't even understand that the average height and weight of men these days far exceeds the average in Marcianos time, of course there were giants like Buddy Baer and Firpo but they were freaks and despite being so big they still just big bums. Spam also can't seem to get it in his head that Marciano was the king then and there was simply no one, not a single guy anywhere that stood a chance against him. Why argue with an idiot with half your intelligence.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by McGoorty View Post
          Oh Jesus you are stuck in the 60's, were you a boxer ?, did you take too many hard blows to that thick skull of yours. BESIDES, HOW IN HELL WOULD YOU KNOW WHAT MY SKIN COLOUR IS or what my nationality is. I am a veteran here who has been away from the site for a while and I can't believe of the crap I am reading, this was a forum with a lot of class, at least the History section was, you don't just come here spamming and insulting everyone because of your backward 1960's attitude, you sir are a troll.
          I am hopeful that we could get a high standard on this section, but with so many morons like him it will be impossible.

          /greeh

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          • #65
            Originally posted by spam View Post
            Lol yeah because I know Rocky Marciano is overrated and only gets played up because of his race means I don't know boxing. No if you think a 5 '10 180 pound fighter like Rocky Marciano would beat , Foreman, Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe, Tua, Ibeabuchi, Mercer, Ruddock, either Klitschko brother, ect ect ect then you don't know boxing.
            For a start he would have smashed Mercer and Ikeabuchi senseless, you don't have a clue what you are even talking about. You say that all the fighters in the 50's were bums which just proves you are an amateur brain. For your information the fighters of the 1950's make these moderns look like spastics, Boxers were better back then and tougher, although I wouldn't rate Marciano in the same breath as a Willie Pep or Sugar Ray Robinson but he was THE BEST Heavyweight of the entire decade and the gap between him and 2nd is W I D E. Fact is the Heavyweight division has always been the least talented division in boxing, big useless lumps most of them. Last thing I will bother to mention.............. race is meaningless inside the ring, if you think a certain creed is simply just superior to all others then you are a tool and incredibly misguided.

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            • #66
              My avatar is a very good indication of my neutrality.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by McGoorty View Post
                For a start he would have smashed Mercer and Ikeabuchi senseless, you don't have a clue what you are even talking about. You say that all the fighters in the 50's were bums which just proves you are an amateur brain. For your information the fighters of the 1950's make these moderns look like spastics, Boxers were better back then and tougher, although I wouldn't rate Marciano in the same breath as a Willie Pep or Sugar Ray Robinson but he was THE BEST Heavyweight of the entire decade and the gap between him and 2nd is W I D E. Fact is the Heavyweight division has always been the least talented division in boxing, big useless lumps most of them. Last thing I will bother to mention.............. race is meaningless inside the ring, if you think a certain creed is simply just superior to all others then you are a tool and incredibly misguided.


                /greeh

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                • #68
                  Respect your betters FOOL

                  Originally posted by spam View Post
                  Anthony you are a Rocky Marciano fan so you are the worse trash. Even worse than Mayweather and Pacquiao fans. At least Mayweather and Pac had some level of skill. At least they fought people who weren't 50 years old or mob controlled so **** off.

                  So now Anthony gets put on ignore. Freaking moron.


                  I am sure Anthony will be just oh so shattered that you insult him as well, for your information Anthony has an IQ at least 100 points higher than you do. I am getting sick of your trolling here, go and find a forum with people who give a #^!%&#

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by greeh View Post
                    I am hopeful that we could get a high standard on this section, but with so many morons like him it will be impossible.

                    /greeh
                    He clearly has no right to even be in the history section if he keeps sinking to the gutter to get his , er, ummm, "opinion" across. There are some real boxing fans here and some real boxing historians who try to shine a light on all the great, semi great and champions from the sports history. I have done many hundreds of hours here and elsewhere searching facts and films of every name I ever heard of and then some, and i am one of many who have done that here, I have made dozens of threads here and I shared any information I came across with you guys here. then we get a troll from the lunatic asylum (NSB).

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by McGoorty View Post
                      He clearly has no right to even be in the history section if he keeps sinking to the gutter to get his , er, ummm, "opinion" across. There are some real boxing fans here and some real boxing historians who try to shine a light on all the great, semi great and champions from the sports history. I have done many hundreds of hours here and elsewhere searching facts and films of every name I ever heard of and then some, and i am one of many who have done that here, I have made dozens of threads here and I shared any information I came across with you guys here. then we get a troll from the lunatic asylum (NSB).
                      It's good to see you cleaning the place up mate.. There's been far too many pricks on here lately..

                      There's still a few decent posters, yourself included, but they're bothering less and less these days.. Me too, because there simply is'nt enough members that are worth having a conversation with.. I can see why guys like Great A, h hascup, southpaw16bf, are'nt anywhere to be seen.. Place is going to the dogs.

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