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  • #61
    Boxrec has the judges scoring at 8-4, 7-5, and 7-4-1 at the time of the knockout...all for Walcott, so had it gone the distance he would've retained the title regardless of what Marciano did over the last three rounds (Rocky would've gotten no better than a draw).

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    • #62
      yea i know which is what made the KO so great but Rocky Was rarely ever up on points i think he only won once by decision---Ezzard Charles the frist time
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      Last edited by RockyMarcianofan00; 08-23-2011, 05:40 AM.

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      • #63
        Struggled with Ezzard Charles. Went the full 15 in their first meeting and Marciano did win a deserved UD. Foreman would have knocked the guy out to be honest since we are discussing power.

        Second fight with Charles, Boxrec says that Marciano was in danger of being TKO'd because the ref was going to stop the fight. Marciano's nose was in a bloody mess.

        In an unrelated topic. If Marciano boxed today many of his fights would probrably be stopped because of his easy bleeding. He would be a cruiserweight today as well.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00
          yea i know which is what made the KO so great but Rocky Was rarely ever up on points i think he only won once by decision---Ezzard Charles the frist time
          He won six fights by decision, my friend, but that was the only championship fight that went the distance...Marciano was up on the scorecards in every other championship fight he was involved in, as well as every other fight that I've seen him in.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
            Second fight with Charles, Boxrec says that Marciano was in danger of being TKO'd because the ref was going to stop the fight. Marciano's nose was in a bloody mess.
            It may have been stopped, but here's some quotes from the fight;

            "It was not the kind of cut that would normally be caused by a punch, perhaps more like the pointed bone of an elbow catching him as he moved toward Charles."

            "The doctor himself was reluctant to take a man's championship away on what appeared to be a freak accident."

            Besides the sixth round, which was basically the only round Charles won in the fight, from what I saw that fight was pretty much a one-sided drubbing right from the opening bell on.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
              Struggled with Ezzard Charles. Went the full 15 in their first meeting and Marciano did win a deserved UD. Foreman would have knocked the guy out to be honest since we are discussing power.

              Second fight with Charles, Boxrec says that Marciano was in danger of being TKO'd because the ref was going to stop the fight. Marciano's nose was in a bloody mess.

              In an unrelated topic. If Marciano boxed today many of his fights would probrably be stopped because of his easy bleeding. He would be a cruiserweight today as well.
              Cruiser i may be mistaken but i think he'd be more in the Light Heavyweight division he was 185-188 i may be mistaken though
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              Last edited by RockyMarcianofan00; 08-23-2011, 05:40 AM.

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              • #67
                I don't know any detail of the second Charles fight, all I Know is what is written on boxrec.

                pretty much a one-sided drubbing right from the opening bell on.
                If that was a Foreman fight, it would barely make it past the first few rounds. Foreman put guys away early because he was the hardest hitter of all time. Marciano was great at hitter hard for 15 rounds and wearing an opponent down.

                Marciano in the 15th round of a fight hits harder than Foreman in the 15th round of a fight. Marciano had better punching stamina. But in the first 2 - 5 rounds of a fight, no one hits harder than a prime Foreman.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Yogi
                  He won six fights by decision, my friend, but that was the only championship fight that went the distance...Marciano was up on the scorecards in every other championship fight he was involved in, as well as every other fight that I've seen him in.
                  yea your rite i said it wrong only chapionship fight but also its the only fight that went 15 rounds, the other decisions were 10 rounders
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                  Last edited by RockyMarcianofan00; 08-23-2011, 05:40 AM.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger
                    I don't know any detail of the second Charles fight, all I Know is what is written on boxrec.



                    If that was a Foreman fight, it would barely make it past the first few rounds. Foreman put guys away early because he was the hardest hitter of all time. Marciano was great at hitter hard for 15 rounds and wearing an opponent down.

                    Marciano in the 15th round of a fight hits harder than Foreman in the 15th round of a fight. Marciano had better punching stamina. But in the first 2 - 5 rounds of a fight, no one hits harder than a prime Foreman.
                    Foreman didn't hit harder
                    they hit the same or Marciano hit harder thats already been established

                    i do like foreman though he's my 2nd/3rd favorite fighter
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                    Last edited by RockyMarcianofan00; 08-23-2011, 05:41 AM.

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                    • #70
                      Foreman didn't hit harder
                      they hit the same or Marciano hit harder thats already been established
                      It has'nt been established at all mate. You say Marciano hit harder than everyone but he didn't. It's widely regarded that Foreman is the hardest hitter of all time.

                      Also, didn't the gloves of Marciano's era have a lot less padding? That adds a bit on ya punch. Gloves of Foreman era were heavier with more padding which would slow and weaken his punches a bit.

                      Foreman hit harder, face it.

                      And Foreman is one of my favourites as well. My all time favourite is Ali, The Greatest!

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