When we were Kings(Foreman on the bag :D)

[RockyMarcianofan00]

no its never been decided if Foreman hit harder then Marciano thats why most experts will say they hit basically as hard as each other but if not Marciano hit harder
i do understand that they had less padding in the 50's but what ounce gloves did they use in the 70's i was pretty sure it was 10oz in the 50's


o and my favorite figthers are Marciano/Dempsey/Louis/Foreman---No Particular order
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[Yogi]

Cruiser i may be mistaken but i think he'd be more in the Light Heavyweight division he was 185-188 i may be mistaken though

I think it's next to impossible to guess what Heavyweights back then would weigh nowadays, because of the "supplements", nutrition, weight cutting, etc...For example, when Mike Tyson didn't have acess to his "supplements" in prison he lost quite a bit of muscle mass, and if he was 200 lbs the day he walked out of that place, then Bruenor is a bearded gnome.

[Yogi]

It's widely regarded that Foreman is the hardest hitter of all time.

I'll agree with a few common opponents that they had (like Ali, Young, Lyle, etc.), and will take Shavers' punching power over Foreman's, thank you very much.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

ha ha yea thats true i figure if Marciano were around today he would probably do Alot more Weight Lifting and probably bulk up to close to 190-200 because he lifted homade weights when he was a kid and use to train with cinderblocks around his wrists when he was a fighter so he'd probably be into weight lifting,he really didn't do any offcial weight training and he hit that hard go figure right?
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[Southpaw Stinger]

I think it's 8 - 10oz in the seventies and less in the 40's 50s. If Marciano wore 70's gloves, his hits would be weaker. If Foreman wore the same gloves as Marciano his hits would be even stronger.

Also, Foreman had a string of 24 straight KO's, Marciano had only 16. The opponents that Foreman faced during those 24 were heavier and aslo arguably better than that of Marciano's 16.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

well either way he had the either tied for or the best punch in boxing history
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[RockyMarcianofan00]

I think it's 8 - 10oz in the seventies and less in the 40's 50s. If Marciano wore 70's gloves, his hits would be weaker. If Foreman wore the same gloves as Marciano his hits would be even stronger.

Also, Foreman had a string of 24 straight KO's, Marciano had only 16. The opponents that Foreman faced during those 24 were heavier and aslo arguably better than that of Marciano's 16.

no way did they use less then 8oz gloves- i'm pretty sure they used 10oz gloves in the 50's cause anything less then 10oz is like bare fists

and the thing i noticed about marciano is that it didnt' matter whether it was a Prime Jersey Joe Walcott or and aging (but still respectable) Archie Moore he always looked the same, behind on points taking hits but then ko ing them with a combination of Hard Hits so i think that if he fought better contenders he'd still do good

another thing is if Rocky Had a better trainer like Cus D'mato he would have been (more) unstoppable
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[Southpaw Stinger]

ha ha yea thats true i figure if Marciano were around today he would probably do Alot more Weight Lifting and probably bulk up to close to 190-200 because he lifted homade weights when he was a kid and use to train with cinderblocks around his wrists when he was a fighter so he'd probably be into weight lifting,he really didn't do any offcial weight training and he hit that hard go figure right?

Weight lifting doesn't equaul punching power. Some boxers keep clear of weights and hit very hard none the less. Marciano had technique which allowed him to hit very hard. His technique made him put every pound of his bodyweight into his punchers. Logically, if Foreman used the same technique then his hits would obviously would be much harder, because he was a lot heavier.

And if Marciano used modern methods to gain weight, then he might not have been as good or strong fighter. Your body has a natural fighting weight, achieved through the correct training and conditioning.
All too often you hear of fighters pushing themselves to get to a higher weight class. You become slower and weaker as a result.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

well i do agree with one thing Weight Lifting doesn't give you all the punching power but if rocky lifted weights it would have made his hit twice as strong. Could you imagine if Foreman actually did use the same technique as Rocky, woooo Foreman would like kill someone with one hit i mean when he hit he only used arm strength i know this but if he put his weight into all i can say to that is WOW

it would be a devasting hit
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[Southpaw Stinger]

no way did they use less then 8oz gloves- i'm pretty sure they used 10oz gloves in the 50's cause anything less then 10oz is like bare fists

8oz is standard glove weight ain't it? They used 8oz for the Ali wepner fight and most fights around then were 8 - 10oz. 8 oz is still standard glove weight for pro's. My gloves are 8oz.

another thing is if Rocky Had a better trainer like Cus D'mato he would have been (more) unstoppable

Now your talking ****e. Obviously an obsessive Marciano fan. No fighter is unstopable.