I think Foreman and Shavers both punched harder than Tyson...
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Tyson hit harder than Foreman and Earnie Shavers
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Some "historians" will tell us a little tar baby like Sam Langhford punched harder than any of them lol. Tyson might have punched the hardest because he tried to fight like Marciano. I think Marciano was the hardest hitting heavyweight ever because he was a small heavyweight who would have KO' d anybody Tyson, Shavers, or Foreman KO' d
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Originally posted by El Manos View PostSome "historians" will tell us a little tar baby like Sam Langhford punched harder than any of them lol. Tyson might have punched the hardest because he tried to fight like Marciano. I think Marciano was the hardest hitting heavyweight ever because he was a small heavyweight who would have KO' d anybody Tyson, Shavers, or Foreman KO' d
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Shavers was a bulldozer, he hit with enormous intensity, while Foreman almost made his punching seem effortless, and yet managed to generate a huge amount of power. Now, Tyson, hit short, hard punches with more dexterity, but with more effort. That is to say, he consumed a lot of stamina to land punches, and not to mention, he had to go up close to do that.
Keeping all this in mind, I'd say Max Baer hit the hardest
Yes, yes, I'm telling you. When the guy was not fooling around, he was busy killing people inside the ring with his punches. Here, 'killing' literally means that.
However, in regard to your original question, I'd rate them in this order :
Foreman>Shavers>Tyson.
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Originally posted by Ray Corso View PostThe belittling starts on the other side first. I'm NOT trying to belittle anyone, I am a confident man whose spent years in a sport and have had sucesses and failures. You never read from me that I "hate" any fighter. In this business the fan sees the bravado and thinks its real!!!! You recently saw and read the "hate" between Rees and Broner yet when the fight was over you all saw them embrace and congradulate each other on their efforts!
There are boxing fans on this site that are disrespectfull little punks who would NEVER get in a ring to compete in boxing yet their here talking s..t!!!
Thats what I don't like!! To have someone here who actually has trained with former champs and top notch contenders and not take advantage of my experience should tell you that theres an intimidation factor because they "feel" that I'm talking down to them when its just my confidence on the subject thats being projected.
Do you actually think that some twenty-two year old kid who "loves the sport" knows more about the sport than I do??? You see theres the confidence again!!
I understand the dynamic completely and it is how I seperated the men from the boys in a boxing gym. When the boys shape up into men then they see the difference in me. Its not up to me to come down to their level I have no time for that crap. They need to step up to my level.
I'm not sorry the internet wasn't around when I was an active trainer so that my name cpould be known for the kids here. In fact I'm very glad its not!
I'm a very private man yet its MY real name in my avitar, think about that!
Its very true that theres an element within the "boxing fan community" that sickens me. The disrespect shown to Pacman and a few years back of young Paul Williams as their defeated and in a compromizing position shouldn't be allowed! Boxing is about learning respect as much as anything. I don't see respect from a few of the minority here who prefer to degrade a defeated fighter instead of celebrate anothers victory. Te people I'm refering to wouldn't last fifteen minutes in my gym, I weed through the garbage quickly!
Never allow cancers in a gym! Why their allowed here is a mystery to me. Boxing (& boxers) = Respect! Ray Corso
You constantly talk about respect, but you utterly disrespect everyone here with every single post you ever write.
You're also a major league bull**** artist. Some of the best men in boxing who I've trained under, actual world level, world champion trainers, are humble, real men. They would not only tell you to grow a pair of balls for acting like you do, but they'd also say anyone that talks **** like you is simply hiding the worst kind of insecurities about their nature and about boxing.
The thing you have to understand Ray is that people who are confident in themselves, their work and their knowledge never have to spend all day, every day telling anyone that will listen how superior they are, how much more they know than everyone, or feel the need to try and start e-fights on the Internet, talk **** to everyone all day, and they certainly don't act like a ****ing 12 year old histrionic girl the way you do. You're a joke mate. You'd get tossed out of every gym I've ever trained in acting like you do here.
The people who actually know what they are talking about are also doing it. Not sitting on their computer acting like ****heads on the Internet all day.
You know why you didn't make it as a trainer? It's precisely because you're a prick that thinks he knows it all.
What a sad old ****.Last edited by BennyST; 03-12-2013, 06:45 AM.
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Ah!! your little weakness is offended by something I said??? Why not mute my posts from your eyes if I upset you so much you little piece of pie!
Unwrinkle your little panties and go back to sucking on Mayweathers or Pacs or who ever you idolize stump!!!!! Wipe the brown off your nose and try to live your life without bothering others! Your just another internet BSer who likes to challenge men by cussing and name calling knowing that if I were in front of you you'd wet yourself! So get back to being the "Internet Champ of Your Mind" and don't bother with me and I'll ignore you, ok sonny?
When I get attacked by jerks like you I call you on it then just move on because your not worth "keyboard boxing" with. Just another kid talking sh.t!
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Originally posted by Ray Corso View PostAh!! your little weakness is offended by something I said??? Why not mute my posts from your eyes if I upset you so much you little piece of pie!
Unwrinkle your little panties and go back to sucking on Mayweathers or Pacs or who ever you idolize stump!!!!! Wipe the brown off your nose and try to live your life without bothering others! Your just another internet BSer who likes to challenge men by cussing and name calling knowing that if I were in front of you you'd wet yourself! So get back to being the "Internet Champ of Your Mind" and don't bother with me and I'll ignore you, ok sonny?
When I get attacked by jerks like you I call you on it then just move on because your not worth "keyboard boxing" with. Just another kid talking sh.t!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TVi6qugGBw
oh yeh, when was ring one gym established coz it doesnt match up to what you said? id be happy to meet you face 2 face man, youd be the one wetting your panties ***headLast edited by likeamulekick; 03-12-2013, 05:53 PM.
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