Tyson hit harder than Foreman and Earnie Shavers

[likeamulekick]

I came on here to share some boxing knowledge to possibly help out some youth or even console a retired fighter who might need a helping ear to listen.

I have a couple of trainers who I suggest technique to via video. A young trainer who I now help via email and video.

Everytime I state who I worked with throughout my career I get a few of the jerks come on and say how I'm demeaning a few posters by "bragging" then they want "proof" of what I'm saying.

If you can't understand through my terminology and my explaination about method & technique has substance theres no need to carry on further.

So tell me Mr. lickamulekick, what gym are from, are you amatuer or pro fighter, who have you worked with, and who is or was your trainer? Ray.

omg man. Im not here to compete with your boxing experience, do you see me quoting that i held mitts for mike tyson?...no, YOU are the one that tells us of your experience which is definitly interesting and something i respect but i have never heard you go into any detail of who you are, where you were ringside and if you fought yourself proffesionally. If your trying to help out young fighters thats fine but this forum is not your gym and people are allowed to disagree with you and thats something YOU need to respect. Am happy for you to tell me why i was wrong and hear your proffesional opinion but stop taking everything personally and belittling people man...........CHILL

[Ray Corso]

I'm simply asking you what your asking me.

You said you swapped punches so what gym are you from?
who trained you?
what fighters have you worked with?

You go first! Ray

[likeamulekick]

I'm simply asking you what your asking me.

You said you swapped punches so what gym are you from?
who trained you?
what fighters have you worked with?

You go first! Ray

lol you dint listen to word i said did you. Im gona guess your american so you wont know of the gym, i never had a proffesional fight and started late and is a great distant from where i live, there was a local one but was more of an amatuer club and they expected me to lose about 5 stone so i kind of gave up on the idea but probably had 50 fights mostly out of the gym and am focusing now on my personal training (non boxing.) So as you can see little experience of actual boxing but no stranger to fighting heavyweights, i regret not getting into boxing as a teenager. NOW please tell me who the **** you are and if you WERE ringside at tyson and foremans fights im sure you can point it out on youtube and if your proud of your confidence, dont give me the excuse your a quiet man, cough up

[Ray Corso]

I'm the former owner of the boxing program at the Pop Lovell Boys club, I also ran the Ring One Boxing Club (still active today) and the Albie Booth Boys Clubs boxing program. The Pop and Albie clubs became Boys & Girls Clubs of America. I was a former Region One coach (USA/ABF) and taught at the Olympic Training Center in Colo. Springs with head coach Pat Nappy (R.I.P) I handled fighters for Vito Taleritta (Conn.)(matchmaker) also Jon Bozz (N.Y.) also Geovanni Branchini (Italy). I was one of the first to work on ESPN boxing when it was at Totawa N.J. Ice Palace, for matchmakers Donny Elbaum and Lou Duva.
I've handled fighters in;
England
Italy
Germany
Thailand
Mexico
Puerto Rico
U.S.A..........every major city and arena I can think off;
Madison Sq. Garden
Boston Arena
Hartford Civic Center
Blue Horizon
Joe Louis Arena
Tropicana Hotels
Miami Convention Center
Joe Louis Arena on and on and on.........................I've been around sonny, to be able to work punch mitts from Shavers to Tyson explains that!!
I shook hands with fighters from Jack Dempsey to Ali, my only regrets is not meeting the Greatest Fighter that ever lived Sugar Ray Robinson!!
Having fighters on Forman under cards and Haglers to being in the corner for world title fights all over the world. So there ya go, I have pics too but I'd never post them here, the little animals here woyuld make a bob sled out of me hahahaha lil' azzholez! Ray

[likeamulekick]

I'm the former owner of the boxing program at the Pop Lovell Boys club, I also ran the Ring One Boxing Club (still active today) and the Albie Booth Boys Clubs boxing program. The Pop and Albie clubs became Boys & Girls Clubs of America. I was a former Region One coach (USA/ABF) and taught at the Olympic Training Center in Colo. Springs with head coach Pat Nappy (R.I.P) I handled fighters for Vito Taleritta (Conn.)(matchmaker) also Jon Bozz (N.Y.) also Geovanni Branchini (Italy). I was one of the first to work on ESPN boxing when it was at Totawa N.J. Ice Palace, for matchmakers Donny Elbaum and Lou Duva.
I've handled fighters in;
England
Italy
Germany
Thailand
Mexico
Puerto Rico
U.S.A..........every major city and arena I can think off;
Madison Sq. Garden
Boston Arena
Hartford Civic Center
Blue Horizon
Joe Louis Arena
Tropicana Hotels
Miami Convention Center
Joe Louis Arena on and on and on.........................I've been around sonny, to be able to work punch mitts from Shavers to Tyson explains that!!
I shook hands with fighters from Jack Dempsey to Ali, my only regrets is not meeting the Greatest Fighter that ever lived Sugar Ray Robinson!!
Having fighters on Forman under cards and Haglers to being in the corner for world title fights all over the world. So there ya go, I have pics too but I'd never post them here, the little animals here woyuld make a bob sled out of me hahahaha lil' azzholez! Ray

thats alot of information lol and not something that i would expect anyone to make up but it just seems strange that you avoided telling me what i asked. What boxer was it that you trained that was fighting foreman and tyson that you were in the corner with? Did you just get carried away and exaggerate or can you just tell me the name of the fighter. Theres no other info i need to prove your legit. If you did that youd never get anymore hassle.

[Ray Corso]

hahaha sonny you and no one else here is going to dictate what I say and damn sure what I do!!
You want to talk boxing then talk, all you really need to do is "listen" to what I say and you'll understand I know my business! Again I've seen what the idiots here do with pics so I'm not giving up any film or video to be able to check back on to see me!! If this was a site without the moron kids there'd be no problem! Ray.

[likeamulekick]

hahaha sonny you and no one else here is going to dictate what I say and damn sure what I do!!
You want to talk boxing then talk, all you really need to do is "listen" to what I say and you'll understand I know my business! Again I've seen what the idiots here do with pics so I'm not giving up any film or video to be able to check back on to see me!! If this was a site without the moron kids there'd be no problem! Ray.

fair enough, will just have to take your word for it, im sure you wouldnt make this stuff up just dont expect people to respect you when you say "Who have you trained sonny????" when you wont even answer that yourself

[Ray Corso]

Theres post on here giving some of the names that have come to me for help, look them up! I'm not going through this every time some kid comes here who wants "proof"!!! Just listen and learn or pay no attention to me. Ray

[Scott9945]

hahaha sonny you and no one else here is going to dictate what I say and damn sure what I do!!
You want to talk boxing then talk, all you really need to do is "listen" to what I say and you'll understand I know my business! Again I've seen what the idiots here do with pics so I'm not giving up any film or video to be able to check back on to see me!! If this was a site without the moron kids there'd be no problem! Ray.

You're the one with the listening problem. You just blow hot air with a closed mind. Your schtick has gotten very stale now.

And trust me, nobody here wants to see your ****ing picture.

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Tyson had speed and accuracy, of course power too. But when you see him hurt his opponents its with clean accurate shots where you can be like damn that was a good shot.

Exactly. The very fact that he was such an accurate clean puncher and Foreman was such a sloppy puncher really shows you who hit harder. When Foreman took someone out there was little technique involved, it was pure power.

Also, Tyson had excellent speed, accuracy, reflexes, all of which help explain his Ko success. The fact that the other two have comparable Ko records without those advantages says a lot.

Even , Holy said Foreman hot him harder than anyone.