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  • #51
    Originally posted by mrbig1 View Post

    Good morning and a happy wake and bake to everyone. To me it's a tossup because of Lewis's chin. He is the better fighter no doubt. Liston at his best was tough and could take anything Lewis has to offer. That Liston jab was no joke. Lewis is one of my favorite fighters of all time. Let's not forget Rahman and McCall KOed Lewis with one shot.
    This is why I gave the edge to Liston. I think at some point Sonny catches that chin with a good jab or straight right and then it's good night Lewis. If McCall and Rahman can, I don't see why Liston couldn't. KO in 4. In a 3 fight series, I could see Lewis winning 2 of 3 though.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post

      This is why I gave the edge to Liston. I think at some point Sonny catches that chin with a good jab or straight right and then it's good night Lewis. If McCall and Rahman can, I don't see why Liston couldn't. KO in 4. In a 3 fight series, I could see Lewis winning 2 of 3 though.
      that dumb quote was exposed years ago you idiot follower rah and mccall didnt just hit lennox one time you idiot and mccall and rah used way more advanced movement then son ever did left that out didn't you see how using dumb follower quotes you read expose you idiot

      Left out in the rematch when lennox was ready he picked off rah and rah was koed lennox was a master when he was ready at picking shots

      Left out son was hurt by leotis and had trouble with him

      left out son was dropped by ali and they say it was fake dont know if it was fake or real either way he stayed down cause he knew ali was to much skilled for him

      Even before the drop by ali ali was landing at will cause of son basic movement like I said and how slow son was

      So maybe you should watch rah and mccall agian anybody with good vision can see they were like i said way more advanced then son ever was

      So no the real son on video which was like i said he was would be destroyed fast since he was nothing like the dudes who you compared for some odd reason yet them being way more advanced as I said which made you look like a idiot and lennox wins every time fast you crazy idiot

      Your fiction son wins fast though but its no vid of him so he doesn't matter

      a comparison that makes sense is lennox fought a man named acey that was the modern son for lennox difference is he moved on his toes more

      Acey was as slow but more sloopy then son defense was bad just the same threw wide punches similar to and lennox wasnt as strong as his older self but he still destroyed that man
      he was missing shots bad and lennox picked him off easy

      Imagine the hw ver of lennox facing acey when lennox hit way harder and was way better with his tech he would had destroyed ace way faster

      Your a idiot son loses by being destroyed like I said see how you shouldn't repeat silly quotes other idiot followers say you idiot watch matches

      Don't see why son couldn't do the same as rah and mccall yet both being way more advanced then him.... you people are idiots just say any dumb quote you read and think it makes sense
      Last edited by Ascended; 07-19-2022, 06:22 AM.

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      • #53
        Liston's fists are simply too big for Lewis. The cross section of his bones is that of a gorilla. Liston just has too much fist and too much cross section for the the tall boy. Sonny sports an ape index of 11, the greatest ever among first class pugilists. Farm boy by a wink and a nod.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by moneytheman View Post

          that dumb quote was exposed years ago you idiot follower rah and mccall didnt just hit lennox one time you idiot and mccall and rah used way more advanced movement then son ever did left that out didn't you see how using dumb follower quotes you read expose you idiot

          Left out in the rematch when lennox was ready he picked off rah and rah was koed lennox was a master when he was ready at picking shots

          Left out son was hurt by leotis and had trouble with him

          left out son was dropped by ali and they say it was fake dont know if it was fake or real either way he stayed down cause he knew ali was to much skilled for him

          Even before the drop by ali ali was landing at will cause of son basic movement like I said and how slow son was

          So maybe you should watch rah and mccall agiaj you idiot anybody with good vision can see they were like i said way more advanced then son ever was

          So no the real son on video which was like i said he was would be destroyed fast since he was nothing like the dudes who you compared for some odd reason yet them being way more advanced as I said which made you look like a idiot and lennox wins every time fast you crazy idiot

          Your fiction son wins fast though but its no vid of him so he doesn't matter

          a comparison that makes sense is lennox fought a man named acey that was the modern son for lennox difference is he moved on his toes more

          Acey was as slow but more sloopy then son defense was bad just the same threw wide punches similar to and lennox wasnt as strong as his older self but he still destroyed that man
          he was missing shots bad and lennox picked him off easy

          Imagine the hw ver of lennox facing acey when lennox hit way harder and was way better with his tech he would had destroyed ace way faster

          Your a idiot son loses by being destroyed like I said see how you shouldn't repeat silly quotes other idiot followers say you idiot watch matches

          Don't see why son couldn't do the same as rah and mccall yet both being way more advanced then him.... you people are idiots just say any dumb quote you read and think it makes sense
          - - Last edited by moneytheman; Today, 02:34 AM.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
            Liston's fists are simply too big for Lewis. The cross section of his bones is that of a gorilla. Liston just has too much fist and too much cross section for the the tall boy. Sonny sports an ape index of 11, the greatest ever among first class pugilists. Farm boy by a wink and a nod.
            Ya, that.....doesn't sound at all like the left of center centrist I've come to expect. Humor at the expense of..? But I am reminded that during the later 1950s and early 60s, those bright-future jet age decades when America's dominance over the world was unchallenged even by the cardboard tubes parading over red square, and lower primate references to Sonny Liston were the accepted norm. As it had been with Johnson, and not so much with the more agreeable Louis, Charles, Walcott and Patterson, generally model citizens who hid their flame beneath a bushel, it was widely understood that there simply was no cowboy, farmer, biker, bouncer or lumberjack on the planet as a member of the master race who Liston couldn't lick in a fight. Not one. Not anywhere. Nobody even close. Bull**** stores about barroom braws whose outcomes were settled by slipping on the puke on the floor? Nothing. It's in the ring or it's of no meaning, and no white man could be found on any continent who was willing to quit his job to make more in a night than his toil would pay him in a lifetime, to step in there with Sonny. And racist, main****** culture hated Liston for those things, the audacity of being more of a man than anyone. So they disparaged his any way they could. But never to his face.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

              Ya, that.....doesn't sound at all like the left of center centrist I've come to expect. Humor at the expense of..? But I am reminded that during the later 1950s and early 60s, those bright-future jet age decades when America's dominance over the world was unchallenged even by the cardboard tubes parading over red square, and lower primate references to Sonny Liston were the accepted norm. As it had been with Johnson, and not so much with the more agreeable Louis, Charles, Walcott and Patterson, generally model citizens who hid their flame beneath a bushel, it was widely understood that there simply was no cowboy, farmer, biker, bouncer or lumberjack on the planet as a member of the master race who Liston couldn't lick in a fight. Not one. Not anywhere. Nobody even close. Bull**** stores about barroom braws whose outcomes were settled by slipping on the puke on the floor? Nothing. It's in the ring or it's of no meaning, and no white man could be found on any continent who was willing to quit his job to make more in a night than his toil would pay him in a lifetime, to step in there with Sonny. And racist, main****** culture hated Liston for those things, the audacity of being more of a man than anyone. So they disparaged his any way they could. But never to his face.
              It was racial but you need to replace "hated" with feared; most loved Patterson.

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              • #57
                Liston beat up a lot of very small and mediocre HWs. I'd have given 195 pound Eddie Machen a very good chance at a win if he could have gotten a rematch. I don't honestly get the infatuation so many fans have for Sonny.

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                Just my opinion but I think Lewis has little trouble with him. I think Holyfield soundly defeats him as well.
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                • #58
                  Originally posted by 4truth View Post
                  Liston beat up a lot of very small and mediocre HWs. I'd have given 195 pound Eddie Machen a very good chance at a win if he could have gotten a rematch. I don't honestly get the infatuation so many fans have for Sonny.

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                  Just my opinion but I think Lewis has little trouble with him. I think Holyfield soundly defeats him as well.
                  - - Mr Field heavy record is 26-10-2, so more fighters found a way to beat him than found a way to beat Sonny.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by 4truth View Post
                    Liston beat up a lot of very small and mediocre HWs. I'd have given 195 pound Eddie Machen a very good chance at a win if he could have gotten a rematch. I don't honestly get the infatuation so many fans have for Sonny.

                    Anti-Fire-Suit.jpg

                    Just my opinion but I think Lewis has little trouble with him. I think Holyfield soundly defeats him as well.
                    lennox fought a man named acey that was the modern son for lennox difference is he moved on his toes more

                    Acey was as slow but more sloopy then son defense was bad just the same threw wide punches similar to and lennox wasnt as strong as his older self but he still destroyed that man
                    he was missing shots bad and lennox picked him off easy

                    Imagine the hw ver of lennox facing acey when lennox hit way harder and was way better with his tech he would had destroyed ace way faster

                    and the great holy would destroy slow easy to read sonny to

                    Only crazy idiots who act like they can't see picks that amateur style fighter sonny
                    lots of mid carders would even destroy him its easy to see this he isn't impressive at all compared to 80s-now fighters
                    Last edited by Ascended; 07-19-2022, 06:46 PM.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by moneytheman View Post

                      lennox fought a man named acey that was the modern son for lennox difference is he moved on his toes more

                      Acey was as slow but more sloopy then son defense was bad just the same threw wide punches similar to and lennox wasnt as strong as his older self but he still destroyed that man
                      he was missing shots bad and lennox picked him off easy

                      Imagine the hw ver of lennox facing acey when lennox hit way harder and was way better with his tech he would had destroyed ace way faster

                      and the great holy would destroy slow easy to read sonny to

                      Only crazy idiots who act like they can't see picks that amateur style fighter sonny
                      lots of mid carders would even destroy him its easy to see this he isn't impressive at all compared to 80s-now fighters
                      As you prove again, the only thing worse than an educated idiot is an uneducated one.
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