Why do so many of you hate on muhammad ali?

[Heckler]

Are you seriously trying to argue that Ali would beat Frazier in a street fight? Ali himself admitted that he wouldn't fare well in a street fight, against anybody. Any brawler like Tyson, Liston, Frazier, etc would have killed him. Remember, this is a street fight, so Frazier would be throwing elbows and headbutts. Ali would get destroyed.

I haven't heard Ali ever say this. And you haven't logically explained your viewpoint. Elbows and headbutts? And? Ali could do the same could he not? And you think Joe frazier is going to go for an elbow before he would throw a left hook? That he would get on the inside to throw a HEADBUTT without getting collected? Frazier looks TOUGHER and i think you will find thats the reason for most giving Frazier the edge in a streetfight.

[Heckler]

i agree

Ali didn't have many knock outs many were decisions and TKO's and those don't exist on the street

How often did Ali throw as hard as he could? with bareknuckles?

[BKM-]

How often did Ali throw as hard as he could? with bareknuckles?

Can you even imagine Frazier with his bare knuckles punching Ali with his hardest left hook? Ali is not a power puncher.

[Frazier's 15th round]

It took Ali about a million punches to hurt Frazier anyway. He couldn't run forever. Frazier would crush his skull with a left hook.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

Can you even imagine Frazier with his bare knuckles punching Ali with his hardest left hook? Ali is not a power puncher.

exactly
you say how often does Ali throw as hard as he can with bareknuckles
well how often does joe frazier do it

[Heckler]

Yes Frazier would seriously hurt Ali with a strong left hook, i acknowledge this, but Ali would also hurt Frazier with a hard bare-knuckled 1-2. Im not saying Ali would win in a streetfight, i was merely pointing out how people on this thread were not thinking about this and merely buying into stereotypes. Could you imagine a fast, whipping, straight right from Ali with bareknuckles (and huge hands)? They are both big men and whoever lands the first decent punch wins. Their both likely to break their hands also.

[Heckler]

It took Ali about a million punches to hurt Frazier anyway. He couldn't run forever. Frazier would crush his skull with a left hook.

Really because a hard flurry in round 2 of the rematch would of dropped Frazier without the uneccessary referee intervention. Frazier was clearly wobbled in ALL THREE fights by Ali. We aren't talking boxing, we are talking bareknuckle punching which is a different ballgame.

[smasher]

Can you even imagine Frazier with his bare knuckles punching Ali with his hardest left hook? Ali is not a power puncher.

We're talking a street fight here, not one of your grade 8 recess shoving and slapping contests, and fights with your kid sister don't count Vanilla ******.

In a street fight, the fighter that gets off first and cleanly has a decided upperhand, as the other guy will be momentarily stunned, often long enough to be taken down where punching power now becomes irrelevant as balance and leverage are negated. A fast 3 punch barefist combo by a heavyweight champion fighter is going to at the very least stun the other guy if not outright hurt him.

Once the fight is on the ground it's anyone's fight if neither guy has grappling experience and both guys are close in size and strength.

[Da Iceman]

Are you seriously trying to argue that Ali would beat Frazier in a street fight? Ali himself admitted that he wouldn't fare well in a street fight, against anybody. Any brawler like Tyson, Liston, Frazier, etc would have killed him. Remember, this is a street fight, so Frazier would be throwing elbows and headbutts. Ali would get destroyed.

i gotta agree, ali had the speed but frazier had a punch. and look where they grew up ali in the burbs frazier in the ****** and country. frazier must have way more streetfighting experience then ali.

if it gets to the ground frazier has the reach advantage because he has shorter arms.

[BKM-]

We're talking a street fight here, not one of your grade 8 recess shoving and slapping contests, and fights with your kid sister don't count Vanilla ******.

In a street fight, the fighter that gets off first and cleanly has a decided upperhand, as the other guy will be momentarily stunned, often long enough to be taken down where punching power now becomes irrelevant as balance and leverage are negated. A fast 3 punch barefist combo by a heavyweight champion fighter is going to at the very least stun the other guy if not outright hurt him.

Once the fight is on the ground it's anyone's fight if neither guy has grappling experience and both guys are close in size and strength.

You're talking about some ****sexual fight there. You really think they would be rolling around on the floor and **** LMAO! This is not the same as you slapping little children on the face with your ****, this is a streetfight where both guys can punch and Frazier is the harder puncher. Go cry now *****.