Mayweather vs Ortiz Preview and Prediction!

[CarlosG815]

Shame he wouldn't.

42 professional well conditioned/trained fighters could not do it, but Merchant could.

Merchant is a loser and I hope he is fired.

[Mugwump]

Floyd didn't break any rules flooring Ortiz but it was hardly the behaviour of a sportsman. That said, I'm becoming increasingly concerned by all this buddy buddy stuff that's been going on in the ring recently. At times it seemed like Ortiz needed to be peeled off of Mayweather and all the high-fives and glove tappings in the Mosley vs Pacquiao fight made me want to spew.

Regarding Merchant - I'm sick of hearing how biased he is against Floyd. The truth is there are countless Merchant quotes made in public and praising Mayweather. So any notion of bias is nothing short of crackpot conspiracy.

The truth is Merchant has enough clout with HBO not to have to kiss ass. And - thankfully - he is one of the few commentators prepared to ask tough questions. Floyd knows this and in order to head off any possibility of he and Manny being asked to behave like grown men instead of children and sign a contract to fight he sabotaged the interview. It's pure childishness. But then what else can you expect from Floyd?

[The Surgeon]

Bottom line Mayweather kept it legal and won fair and square.

Love em or hate him he is the best fighter out there

[Mugwump]

Bottom line Mayweather kept it legal and won fair and square.

I agree that Floyd's actions were perfectly legal. But in boxing - just as there are in all sports - there is an unwritten code of ethics which a fighter should be mindful to observe. If there weren't no one would give a damn, say, about Duran quitting on his stool against Sugar Ray.

I have no time for all this chumminess which has recently emerged in boxing. The endless high-fives and vomit-inducing mutual appreciation which took place in the Pac vs Mosley "battle" was bad enough. Now we have Ortiz who couldn't have shown Floyd more respect if he'd tossed a rug down in the centre of the ring and prayed.

Had Floyd simply shrugged off his embrace and smashed him I would have no problems. Indeed, I'd probably congratulate the guy. But watching the video again it is plain to see that he actively encouraged an embrace, faked him out and then whacked him.

Why Ortiz didn't lift his guard after the first punch I'm not sure. It didn't seem particularly hard (certainly not as hard as the second) so perhaps he was trying to encourage a disqualification. Whatever the case his actions backfired and Floyd gained an easy victory.

Clearly the fans thought Floyd had exceeded the fighter's code of ethics which was evidenced by the chorus of boos. Yes, Floyd is a divisive character and I'm sure many of those disgruntled fans would have booed regardless. But the point should be made that they ALSO booed Ortiz's head-butt.

At the end of the day history will show Floyd won. But his actions will hardly underline his legacy or his reputation. And for anyone who says results are the only thing that matter I simply cannot agree.

Take a sport such as golf for instance. Jack Nicklaus is widely regarded as the greatest player the world has ever seen (with Tiger - if he ever gets his head together - approaching fast). But his reputation has as much to do with his sportsmanlike behaviour as his astonishing number of wins. No one would have complained if he had forced Tony Jacklin to take a two-foot putt in the 1969 Ryder Cup and been victorious in the event of a miss. But his decision to concede in such a high-stakes environment won him arguably more followers than any of his victories.

Love em or hate him he is the best fighter out there

We don't know this for sure. And we may never unless both he and Manny start acting like grown men instead of babies and glove up. I have him as favourite - but let's not delude ourselves into thinking any of Floyd's recent opponents approach within a mile of Pac's quality.

[joseph5620]

I agree that Floyd's actions were perfectly legal. But in boxing - just as there are in all sports - there is an unwritten code of ethics which a fighter should be mindful to observe. If there weren't no one would give a damn, say, about Duran quitting on his stool against Sugar Ray.

I have no time for all this chumminess which has recently emerged in boxing. The endless high-fives and vomit-inducing mutual appreciation which took place in the Pac vs Mosley "battle" was bad enough. Now we have Ortiz who couldn't have shown Floyd more respect if he'd tossed a rug down in the centre of the ring and prayed.

Had Floyd simply shrugged off his embrace and smashed him I would have no problems. Indeed, I'd probably congratulate the guy. But watching the video again it is plain to see that he actively encouraged an embrace, faked him out and then whacked him.

Why Ortiz didn't lift his guard after the first punch I'm not sure. It didn't seem particularly hard (certainly not as hard as the second) so perhaps he was trying to encourage a disqualification. Whatever the case his actions backfired and Floyd gained an easy victory.

Clearly the fans thought Floyd had exceeded the fighter's code of ethics which was evidenced by the chorus of boos. Yes, Floyd is a divisive character and I'm sure many of those disgruntled fans would have booed regardless. But the point should be made that they ALSO booed Ortiz's head-butt.

At the end of the day history will show Floyd won. But his actions will hardly underline his legacy or his reputation. And for anyone who says results are the only thing that matter I simply cannot agree.

Take a sport such as golf for instance. Jack Nicklaus is widely regarded as the greatest player the world has ever seen (with Tiger - if he ever gets his head together - approaching fast). But his reputation has as much to do with his sportsmanlike behaviour as his astonishing number of wins. No one would have complained if he had forced Tony Jacklin to take a two-foot putt in the 1969 Ryder Cup and been victorious in the event of a miss. But his decision to concede in such a high-stakes environment won him arguably more followers than any of his victories.



We don't know this for sure. And we may never unless both he and Manny start acting like grown men instead of babies and glove up. I have him as favourite - but let's not delude ourselves into thinking any of Floyd's recent opponents approach within a mile of Pac's quality.

Should history take away from Duran for hitting Buchanan low and thumbing Davey Moore?

[fitefanSHO]

Fouls are part of boxing and fighters do them for a reason usually, to get an advantage of some kind. So if you gonna do it, do it well, and stand behind it! In fact, instead of apologizing, you should smile the smile of a man who wants his opponent to think he just might do it again. Ortiz really screwed up but after the fact he showed way more class than Floyd, IMO that's undisputed.

[CarlosG815]

Fouls are part of boxing and fighters do them for a reason usually, to get an advantage of some kind. So if you gonna do it, do it well, and stand behind it! In fact, instead of apologizing, you should smile the smile of a man who wants his opponent to think he just might do it again. Ortiz really screwed up but after the fact he showed way more class than Floyd, IMO that's undisputed.

How exactly did he show more class? He came in like Rocksteady. He showed more class because why? Because he smiled?

Ortiz knew that what he did was ****** and he was afraid of what he knew was going to come, so he wanted to flip the script and try to play nice. It's like that bully in school who picks a fight with the wrong kid then when the kid comes at him and means business, the coward tries to save himself. That is not class man, that is a coward. If you're going to fight dirty, headbutt him, then get your point deducted, go to your corner, keep your brows angled in anger and keep your hands up and come back fighting hard. Don't try all that *****footin BS to try and save yourself cause you know you screwed up like a coward.

I think he did what many fighters would do in that position.

[fitefanSHO]

How exactly did he show more class?

Because he accepted the controversial result without a whiff of protest, made no excuses, and most importantly of all, he did not assail an 80 years old boxing announcer with a vile verbal tirade fit for a typical low class boxing message board.

That's how.

[CarlosG815]

Because he accepted the controversial result without a whiff of protest, made no excuses, and most importantly of all, he did not assail an 80 years old boxing announcer with a vile verbal tirade fit for a typical low class boxing message board.

That's how.

Larry Merchant is the most disrespectful commentator I have ever seen. Floyd, Hamed, Tyson and many others have had problems with Larry Merchant for his constant tirade of hate and disrespect he shows to fighters who pay his salary.

He is an old grump and needs to be fired. The only good thing about Merchant is that he is a running joke with my family when we laugh about how he is always drunk.

Or was the view different from press row where you were? And did you have Ortiz winning this fight but even after the deduction?

[fitefanSHO]

Larry Merchant is the most disrespectful commentator I have ever seen. Floyd, Hamed, Tyson and many others have had problems with Larry Merchant for his constant tirade of hate and disrespect he shows to fighters who pay his salary.

He is an old grump and needs to be fired. The only good thing about Merchant is that he is a running joke with my family when we laugh about how he is always drunk.

Or was the view different from press row where you were? And did you have Ortiz winning this fight but even after the deduction?

People who talk about the disrespectful nature of others are usually the most disrespectful of all and you are no different. Welcome back to my ignore list.