Does Evander Holyfield Alleged Steriod Use, Hurt His Legacy?

[Scott9945]

Well steroids don't. HGH does, but I don't think he was getting accused of that, was he? Or was it just generic PED su****ion?

Almost every fighter who uses steroids would be willing to take HGH if they can get it. You either choose to chemically enhance yourself or you don't. Holyfield used to train with bodybuilding champion Lee Haney. I'm sure he was keenly aware of what he was doing.

[Perfect Plex]

Wow, am shocked at you guys. Saying you don't care about him doing steroids and all that if you aint cheating you aint trying ****.

Steroids should have no place in boxing imo. You should train and fight naturally and not cheat by taking PED's. It's outright wrong and should never be accepeted in boxing.

[BigStereotype]

Wow, am shocked at you guys. Saying you don't care about him doing steroids and all that if you aint cheating you aint trying ****.

Steroids should have no place in boxing imo. You should train and fight naturally and not cheat by taking PED's. It's outright wrong and should never be accepeted in boxing.

I was kidding about the cheating and trying bit. You shouldn't do steroids, sure. But honestly, they don't bother than me that much. If someone wants to put that kind of toll on their body so they can put on a better show for me (simplistic view, I know), more power to them. The only reason most people are so convinced it's wrong is because ESPN told them so. You might not be among those people, but I really don't think it's that awful.

The whole "integrity of the game" thing makes me laugh. If that were so, it would be fight-to-the-finish bareknuckle brawling. Baseball would have ******** gloves with no fences and 9 balls to a walk. Times change, nutrition and training changes...again. I'm not saying it's the right thing to do. But I don't buy the moral injustice part.

[paulsinghnl]

i understand that things change, you know. we all evolve to the next level. but this PED's is just one step too far.. they're talking about the next step being gene doping.. so fundamentally enhancing you.. where does it all end then?

i think it's just one of man's flaws to want to win at ALL costs.. but about Evander: his heart and courage in a fight, warrior spirit will never be denied, that's something that can never be chemically enhanced.

[Toney616]

Don't care about steroids in any sport. I just like to appreciate what I'm seeing. If you're not cheating, you're not trying haha

lol

[Clegg]

Steroids just let you work harder. They don't magically add muscle. They let you train harder. He probably did them, I just don't think it should affect how you look at him.

At least do some research before spewing bullshit. If you take steroids and sit on your couch all day watching TV, you will add muscle. If you don't know this, then you're obviously not informed on the topic.

I mean, look, if you're pro-steroids and want to say ****** shit like 'people are only against coz ESPN told them that' then that's your choice. But don't make up claims like the above and present your uniformed guesses as facts.

[Barn]

Just because, he was the one (kind of) caught. They would have been taken by any fighters. I see no reason we should degrade his resume when other fighters like Pacquiao, Lennox and many others have been accused of steroids.

[Toney616]

Just because, he was the one (kind of) caught. They would have been taken by any fighters. I see no reason we should degrade his resume when other fighters like Pacquiao, Lennox and many others have been accused of steroids.

There has always been a lot of su****ion about Holyfield ever since he moved up to hw. I think the whole Evan Fields thing means that there may be truth behind the su****ions. Neither Lewis or Pacquaio have been caught buying hgh under fake names so its not really the same thing.

For the record I do think its hurts his resume - its a form of cheating after all

[IronDanHamza]

I was kidding about the cheating and trying bit. You shouldn't do steroids, sure. But honestly, they don't bother than me that much. If someone wants to put that kind of toll on their body so they can put on a better show for me (simplistic view, I know), more power to them. The only reason most people are so convinced it's wrong is because ESPN told them so. You might not be among those people, but I really don't think it's that awful.

The whole "integrity of the game" thing makes me laugh. If that were so, it would be fight-to-the-finish bareknuckle brawling. Baseball would have ******** gloves with no fences and 9 balls to a walk. Times change, nutrition and training changes...again. I'm not saying it's the right thing to do. But I don't buy the moral injustice part.

I think most people with a grain of sense are convinced steroids in Boxing is wrong because it's cheating.

This a sport where your life is on the line. Cheating and using steroids is not only a disgrace to yourself but could easily kill another human being.

Of course, it is an absolutely awful act.

And just because 'Lots probably do it' does not make it ok.

Although it looks like Holyfield did do PED's, at the end of the day it's only speculation and no actual evidence. Which is the ONLY reason Holyfields legacy hasn't been thrown out the window.

If there was ever to be any evidence that Holyfield had used illegal enhancement drugs then of course it would have an astronomic effect on is legacy. Especially at Heavyweight.

[BigStereotype]

At least do some research before spewing bullshit. If you take steroids and sit on your couch all day watching TV, you will add muscle. If you don't know this, then you're obviously not informed on the topic.

I mean, look, if you're pro-steroids and want to say ****** shit like 'people are only against coz ESPN told them that' then that's your choice. But don't make up claims like the above and present your uniformed guesses as facts.

For your first point, from everything I've heard and read, Anabolic Steroids help your muscles recover after training, meaning you can train more often. They don't build muscle by themselves. HGH does build muscle by itself. But they're not the same thing. If I'm misinformed, ok. But I believe I'm right. I'll look into it more.

For your second point, most people I've talked to are quick to say that they hate steroids and that it's the worst thing you can do and then stumble after I ask why. Then, they regurgitate some stuff they heard a pundit say. That might not be indicative of everybody, it's just my experience. Like I said, I'm not pro-steroids, I'm just not anti-steroids.