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  • Toney616
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    #251
    Originally posted by Ugh!
    it's a fact?
    Of course its a fact. He tested positive for an anabolic steroid. He was six times over the acceptable limit. What evidence is there that Ripped fuel can make a athlete test positive for anabolic steroids?

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      #252
      Originally posted by Toney616
      If the options reason was the real reason, then Jones wouldn't have to keep changing his story.
      Not everything in this world is as black and white as you would appear for it to be. Not even sure what you mean by "changing his story." If he says they turned down an offer that automatically means it can't be because of King? On what planet?

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        #253
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        You don't know how long Toney was juicing. And whether it was once or not. Just stop.
        Either way you are the one who brought up Toney and as I said before that was a bad example.

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          #254
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Not everything in this world is as black and white as you would appear for it to be. Not even sure what you mean by "changing his story." If he says they turned down an offer that automatically means it can't be because of King? On what planet?
          He has given three different reasons why the fight never happened:

          1: King wants options
          2: King and Warren didn't want the fight because they didnt have complete control over Benn
          3: Benn was going through a divorce

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            #255
            Originally posted by Toney616
            Either way you are the one who brought up Toney and as I said before that was a bad example.
            Yes, it's a bad example because Toney used only once, according to you. Even though he was caught twice. But Roy was definitely a long-time user, because he was caught once.
            Last edited by IMDAZED; 07-19-2011, 01:27 PM.

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              #256
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              I guess where you're from, turning down automatically means ducking. I don't think like you do.
              Come on now, surely you can do better than that?

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                #257
                Originally posted by Toney616
                He has given three different reasons why the fight never happened:

                1: King wants options
                2: King and Warren didn't want the fight because they didnt have complete control over Benn
                3: Benn was going through a divorce
                If he was asked just once his entire career, this might make sense.

                Second, and this may come as a shock to you but, none of that means King didn't ask for options. No amount of Warren quotes makes your opinion true.

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                  #258
                  Originally posted by Toney616
                  Come on now, surely you can do better than that?
                  I don't have to. Again, I don't think like you. A fight may not come off for a number of reasons. More often than not, especially when dealing with elite fighters, it has nothing to do with "ducking" and everything to do with business.

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                    #259
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Yes, it's a bad example because Toney used only once, according to you. Even though he was caught twice.
                    In the Ring magazine it said that the second time Toney got busted was for an illegal fat metabolizer which is used on horses. That's why I said he was busted once for steroids, not twice. But looking at Wiki it states it Boldenone and Stanozolol
                    This must be the one the Ring must of been talking about

                    Boldenone (1,4-androstadiene-3-one-17β-ol, available as the undecylenate ester), also known under the trade names Equipoise, Ganabol, Equigan and Ultragan, is an anabolic steroid developed for veterinary use, mostly for treatment of horses. In the US it is not indicated for use in humans and is only available through veterinary clinics.

                    Either way it changes nothing. You are the one that brought one Toney's roid use, not me.

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                      #260
                      Originally posted by Toney616
                      In the Ring magazine it said that the second time Toney got busted was for an illegal fat metabolizer which is used on horses. That's why I said he was busted once for steroids, not twice. But looking at Wiki it states it Boldenone and Stanozolol
                      This must be the one the Ring must of been talking about



                      Either way it changes nothing. You are the one that brought one Toney's roid use, not me.
                      Nearly every steroid athletes use is something that's used on horses. I don't even understand what that's supposed to prove.

                      Second, you're right it changes nothing. Since we can't gauge how long someone used for - or when they stopped - it's impossible to gauge the effects. Hopefully that kills that. Funny, when I asked you how steroids affected Toney you said "who knows, I don't know about that stuff blah blah." Yet you can pinpoint how it affected Roy because he got caught less times and thus, must've used it more. SMH.

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