Sometimes I Wonder Why Did Roy Ever Waste His Time Fighting Fighters Like.....

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To be fair, tho. Arguably better fighters than Roy were notorious for taking their own sweet time between defences. Marvin Hagler could hardly be described as prolific. And didn't Marciano take an eternity to put together his stretch of title defences?

[StarshipTrooper]

To be fair, tho. Arguably better fighters than Roy were notorious for taking their own sweet time between defences. Marvin Hagler could hardly be described as prolific. And didn't Marciano take an eternity to put together his stretch of title defences?

Marciano gets criticized all the time for his resume and rightly so.

Poet

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I don't think Toney would ever beat Roy now, Roy's too much for anyone at 168 IMO.

But back then, I just thought Toney was on another level to Roy.

To be honest I didn't think much of him at that time, the Toney fight made me a fan.

Toney is still a great fighter but he could have been much more. Guy was eating at fast foos joints during training camps in his prime

Yeah man, forreal. I guess in hindsight we should've known Roy was the goods (given his amateur background) but who the hell had he fought at that point anyway. And he was always dancing and **** . Dude was like Hamed before the Barrera fight. That fight was an eye opener.

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Bring it on. Nunn? Collins? DM? Who do you want to talk about next?

You brought them up, my friend. Care to list a reason for those three names? It appears their really wasn't one for Calzaghe, for instance. Let's throw some substance behind this.

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Highly unlikely

I think cutting muscle at that advanced stage of his career hurt him immensely. The beating he took in the first Tarver bout sealed it.

McClellan had been calling him out since 92. He wanted to make the fight after he beat Jackson in their rematch

Of course he did. A Jones-McClellan fight in 1992 would've been much, much too early. They knew each other pretty well from Kronk and the amateurs, had incredible gym wars against each other and were young, undefeated hard-hitting Americans. So while McClellan may have been calling him out then, it doesn't mean the fight was there to be made then. Jones was calling out Toney at 160 when James was still the champ there. The fight eventually came off at the perfect time. Jones versus the winner of McClellan-Benn was the obvious bout at the time and it looked like a safe bet one round in. But **** happens.

[JAB5239]

You brought them up, my friend. Care to list a reason for those three names? It appears their really wasn't one for Calzaghe, for instance. Let's throw some substance behind this.

Reason being they were at or around Jones weight and were better fighters than many who Roy was fighting. Nunn was a fight Many thought Roy could lose and was a tall, fast southpaw with a big name. Collins beat both UK fighters many had speculated about fighting Roy and called him out on numerous occasions. DM was undefeated in the same division and a long time title holder, feasting on the same caliber opponents Roy was. Any one of these fights is much more legacy enhancing than most of the fighters Roy chose to fight instead.

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Reason being they were at or around Jones weight and were better fighters than many who Roy was fighting. Nunn was a fight Many thought Roy could lose and was a tall, fast southpaw with a big name. Collins beat both UK fighters many had speculated about fighting Roy and called him out on numerous occasions. DM was undefeated in the same division and a long time title holder, feasting on the same caliber opponents Roy was. Any one of these fights is much more legacy enhancing than most of the fighters Roy chose to fight instead.

At what weight are you referring to with Nunn? And when. And how.

We'll get to Collins and DM in a sec.

[JAB5239]

At what weight are you referring to with Nunn? And when. And how.

We'll get to Collins and DM in a sec.

Almost any time in the mid to late 90's at either 168 or 175. Besides Toney there wasn't a better fighter Roy would have faced.

[Allucard]

RJJ fans have the nerve to criticize calzaghe when RJJ only has 2 or 3 credible wins on his entire resume.

Remember, when RJJ was fighting bums like the above mentioned, calzaghe was fighting guys like chris eubank and mikkel kessler, REAL BOXERS NOT PART TIMERS.

Eric lucas was a good fight though

Even if that was true, it would still be 1 or 2 more credible wins than Calzaghe. Roy was greater than an 0, Joe Calzaghe was not. Sorry dude.

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Almost any time in the mid to late 90's at either 168 or 175. Besides Toney there wasn't a better fighter Roy would have faced.

At 168? When were Nunn & Roy at 168 simultaneously? In 1994 when Nunn was losing to Littles and Jones was beating Toney? Yeah, that was viable. Oh wait, you mean at 175 after Nunn lost to Rochigianni, right?

Just STOP.