Agree Or Disagree, Roy Jones Jr Top 30 ATG?

[IronDanHamza]

Of course Micheal Spinks is greater and beat better fighters at 175 as opposed to Roy Jones and I would probably lean on him to beat Jones at 175 but Jones is the greater of the two, IMO.

[Daddy T]

lol a few heated opinions here but really anybody that argues that jones could not have done more with his imense talent is simply biased - there are just a few too many top names that should be on his resume but aren't. Ye can respond by saying crap like "you can say that about any fighter" but thats just blowing smoke ATGs are not just "any" fighters.

[Scott9945]

That weight drained crap is bull if he couldnt do it he shoulda said no.

And Sosa was his first light heavy weight fight how's that not a good b plus win? He took some bombs in that fight and came back and knocked him out in round two.

Everyone knew that Toney was weight drained for the Jones fight. And if you say no, you don't get paid.

Sosa was a good ESPN level fighter. He simply wasn't in the same class as Roy Jones and not a top lightheavyweight.

[SCtrojansbaby]

Everyone knew that Toney was weight drained for the Jones fight. And if you say no, you don't get paid.

Sosa was a good ESPN level fighter. He simply wasn't in the same class as Roy Jones and not a top lightheavyweight.

Weight drained my azz Roy moved up in weight to fight him not the other way around. Toney had been cutting a ton of weight for years he was fine Roy just made him look bad like he did everybody else

Oh and Sosa was a top light heavy he was coming off two wins against Prince Charles Williams at 175, he gave James Toney hell at 160, and he beat Glen Johnson at 168.

LOL you people come up with the widest excuses just so you won't have to admit that Roy is one of the top 5 in modern boxing(1970-present)

[Forza]

Toney didn't look weight drained to me. In fact he looked great. RJJ's win over toney was one of the only things that make him not a complete fraud.

btw LHW is a terrible division

[PRINCE O' PROSE]

Weight drained my azz Roy moved up in weight to fight him not the other way around.

:S This made no sense. Weight draining is a consequence of cutting weight, not putting weight on.



That said, I agree that the "weight drained Toney" line is overplayed.

[fitefanSHO]

Top 30 ATG? No way.

Top 30 most overrated of all time? Easily.

Jones has been exposed and his legacy tarnished.

[Toney616]

In order for him to be top 30, then he needed to clean out mw, smw and lhw, and prove beyond a doubt that he was the top fighter in those divisions. He didnt do that. So for me he has to be outside top 30. Maybe around top 50-60

[crold1]

Weight drained my azz Roy moved up in weight to fight him not the other way around. Toney had been cutting a ton of weight for years he was fine Roy just made him look bad like he did everybody else

Oh and Sosa was a top light heavy he was coming off two wins against Prince Charles Williams at 175, he gave James Toney hell at 160, and he beat Glen Johnson at 168.

LOL you people come up with the widest excuses just so you won't have to admit that Roy is one of the top 5 in modern boxing(1970-present)

There is some truth in this. Toney's weight issues were always there. However, there are some versions of Toney who were just abysmal in terms of conditioning and punch output; think Tiberi, Thadzi. That Toney was not a world class fighter, at all. Considering how lacking in effort he was versus Jones, it's fair to wonder whether Jones was in with his very worst.

Not Jones's fault either way, but its a reasonable ask.

[The Surgeon]

Great minds do NOT always think alike!

Lol very True Terry!

Ive been thinking about Roy's place today and ive decided that for me he is top 30 ATG too

Guy was Brilliant and his sheer domination should count for something