Tyson's Talents Are Way Overrated

[Verstyle]

i cant lie,alot of tyson fans on here make us regular tyson fans look like idiots. like when they say he hit the hardest and the best ever and all that. im probably the biggest tyson fan on here and i know thats not TRUE.

[Cutthroat]

I don't know if Tyson hit harder than Marciano or vice versa. How can anyone who hasn't taken their punches. All I know is that Tyson was a devastating finisher with the ability to knock any great heavyweight out with one clean punch. His attacks were also measured and calculated, putting all his power into each shot, whether it was to the body, the side of the head, or the chin. Second to his finishing skills were his defensive skills. Tyson kept his hands up and rarely got caught with clean shots. If he did, he had a granite chin to back it up. As far as his footwork goes, he never danced and rarely tried to win by decision. However, if his defensive skills didn't disappear we may be looking at a heavyweight in the top three all time.

They measured thier punches before, Tyson almost got twice of what Marciano did, back then they didn't have much of a chin. You gotta remember that.

[Kid Achilles]

You are so right. So many of Tyson's fans give him a bad name with their ridiculous comments and downright hateful remarks to other heavyweights from years past. The ironic thing is Tyson worshipped guys like Louis, Marciano, Frazier and Dempsey, hell he has ten times the historical knowledge I have, maybe a hundred times (Tyson is really a walking boxing history encyclopedia, it's almost freakish how well he knows the dates and everything) and would probably cuss out anyone who would talk **** about these guys.

[Kid Achilles]

They measured thier punches before, Tyson almost got twice of what Marciano did, back then they didn't have much of a chin. You gotta remember that.

Marciano was recorded at something like 1150 whereas Tyson was in the 1200-1300 range. I hardly call that twice the punching power of Marciano.

[Verstyle]

the ppl that say tyson is the greatest and so on and so on,only goes by his kos and 1 of the only guys they can remember and somewhat pay attention to.

[NJFighter91]

You are so right. So many of Tyson's fans give him a bad name with their ridiculous comments and downright hateful remarks to other heavyweights from years past. The ironic thing is Tyson worshipped guys like Louis, Marciano, Frazier and Dempsey, hell he has ten times the historical knowledge I have, maybe a hundred times (Tyson is really a walking boxing history encyclopedia, it's almost freakish how well he knows the dates and everything) and would probably cuss out anyone who would talk **** about these guys.

I was watching an interview with Tyson, Leanard, and Ali aired in the 80's and when they asked Tyson about Ali's favorite fight, he knew the fight by date, location, everything. Pretty freakish just like you said.

[hellfire508]

These are the sort of ignorant posts that **** me so much, from Tyson fans.

All I know is that Tyson was a devastating finisher with the ability to knock any great heavyweight out with one clean punch.

Please. One clean punch on any fighter? So, he didn't land a clean punch on Holyfield? Douglas? Bonecrusher Smith? Tucker? Get a clue. Guts like Chuvalo wouldn't even take a step back after getting nailed flush from Tyson. Foreman barely made him blink!

Marciano? You've got to be kidding me, he couldn't hit for ****. Tyson almost punched twice as hard as him, and that is a FACT no an opinion

A FACT? Ok bud. Keep your wet dreams to yourself.

It's easy to talk **** about Iron Mike now he threw it all away. Yes the likes of Frazier, Foreman, Ali, Liston, Dempsy and Marciano had some impressive talents, but each individualy, Who besides Mike did it all? Answer none of them.

Note: Tyson wasn't complete either. He lacked heart, a VITAL ingredient.

all i can say is GO EAT A **** skydog, ur dumb, dats it. marciano is 85kg, tyson was 100kg, marcian is nowhere near as powerful, and dum ****s like u which there are many say he got beaten by buster and evander meanign dat he has weak chin. remember, anyman can knock u if he gets 500+ punchs on u, roy jones only been dropped twice, now are u gona sya he has steel chin? IDIOTS< MUTHA***ER

Weight does not determine power, as I said earlier. Valuev does not hit harder than Tyson, despite weighing one and a half Tysons!!

Yes, Tyson was one of the most skilled heavies in history. He certainly had more skills than Ali.

Really? He certainly did, did he?

They measured thier punches before, Tyson almost got twice of what Marciano did, back then they didn't have much of a chin. You gotta remember that.

Really? Prove to everyone about these tests. That's right, you cant! Rumour has it Marciano was measured on a PSI machine, and clocked in at over 1000PSI... but that rumour can't be substantiated as far as I know. But you "know" all these facts, so provide evidence please.

Oh, and since when didn't they have chins back then? I guess having a good chin develops over time right? Taking a punch is mostly to do with motivation, and I guess fighters have gotten hungrier since then, right?



Guys like Kid Achilles and Versatile are right... they are Tyson fans, and they get a bad name because of ignorant people like the ones I have quoted.

[Verstyle]

tyson did have heart.with douglas he fought for 10 rounds of getting his ass kicked,he had to be knocked the **** out to quit.vs. ruddock he had the heart to continue although ruddock was doing everything that ppl say could beat a tyson(not afraid,coming foward,hitting back),first holyfield fight he was gettin his ass handed to him for 11 rounds before the tko, a person would no heart would of stopped trying already,vs. lewis once again he got his ass beat for 8 rounds and stood and took it while tryin to fight back,all these fights were lopsided but he still fought(besides ruddock). now fights where i can say the heart lacked was 2nd holyfield fight when he bit his ear,williams fight although he had a knee injury he should have fought threw it alot more then what he did instead of practically quiting,and vs. mcbride when he said **** it. thats only 3 times, alot of u guys make it seem like he's been heartless his whole career.

[hellfire508]

He had heart, but it was nothing compared to Frazier, or Holyfield, or Ali, or Marciano. Therefore he was not complete.

[catskills23]

Marciano was recorded at something like 1150 whereas Tyson was in the 1200-1300 range. I hardly call that twice the punching power of Marciano.

how do you know tyson punch was 1200-1300.